Comments on: $5,000 for Proving the Earth is a Globe http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/ Yesterday's tomorrow, today. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:59:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ZLostAlien http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1063722 ZLostAlien Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:25:46 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1063722 It is very difficult to understand what anybody else's experience is. There aren't enough words to really understand what anybody else is living. Physical beings want things to be the same. They want people to think the same. You work rather hard at sameness, but you will never win that battle, because from Nonphysical, diversity is known to be the most beneficial part of the game. Excerpted from a workshop in Maui, HI on Sunday, December 14th, 1997 All Is Well Esther said to us, "Abraham, how come you guys (meaning nonphysical entities) can't get your stories straight? This one says this. That one says that. If we have been talking to God, why doesn't God say the same thing to everyone? Why isn't everybody getting the same message?" And we said, "Everybody isn't asking the same question. Everybody is not at the same point of understanding. Everybody is not even wanting the same thing." We are all about eternalness which means we are about difference. It is in our difference that desires of all kinds come forth, and as all of these new desires pop up, every one of them, even in their difference, is important. Excerpted from a workshop in Chicago, IL on Saturday, July 11th, 1998 All Is Well Rest seems like a nice contrast to overwhelment, but enthusiasm is always chosen over rest. The only thing that ever makes you tired or bogs you down is resistance. Excerpted from a workshop in Lincroft, NJ on Tuesday, October 15th, 1996 All Is Well It is very difficult to understand what anybody else’s experience is. There
aren’t enough words to really understand what anybody else is living.
Physical beings want things to be the same. They want people to think the
same. You work rather hard at sameness, but you will never win that
battle, because from Nonphysical, diversity is known to be the most
beneficial part of the game.

Excerpted from a workshop in Maui, HI on Sunday, December 14th, 1997

All Is Well

Esther said to us, “Abraham, how come you guys (meaning nonphysical
entities) can’t get your stories straight? This one says this. That one
says that. If we have been talking to God, why doesn’t God say the same
thing to everyone? Why isn’t everybody getting the same message?” And we
said, “Everybody isn’t asking the same question. Everybody is not at the
same point of understanding. Everybody is not even wanting the same
thing.” We are all about eternalness which means we are about difference.
It is in our difference that desires of all kinds come forth, and as all
of these new desires pop up, every one of them, even in their difference,
is important.

Excerpted from a workshop in Chicago, IL on Saturday, July 11th, 1998

All Is Well

Rest seems like a nice contrast to overwhelment, but enthusiasm is always
chosen over rest. The only thing that ever makes you tired or bogs you
down is resistance.

Excerpted from a workshop in Lincroft, NJ on Tuesday, October 15th, 1996

All Is Well

]]> By: d by dy » Blog Archive » “$5,000 for Proving the Earth is a Globe” http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1062691 d by dy » Blog Archive » “$5,000 for Proving the Earth is a Globe” Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:10:52 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1062691 [...] for proving that the Earth is spherical.  Within the posted terms, the challenge turned out to be no easy cake.  A solid proof outside of the challenge, though, lies with Foucualt’s pendulum and [...] [...] for proving that the Earth is spherical.  Within the posted terms, the challenge turned out to be no easy cake.  A solid proof outside of the challenge, though, lies with Foucualt’s pendulum and [...]

]]> By: Arkady http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1061587 Arkady Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:31:19 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1061587 The problem with most of these pseudoscientific theories, like Brian's, is that they rely on qualitative analysis as opposed to quantitative analysis. To phrase it another way they have no calculations to back them up and instead rely on obfuscation and sophistry. For instance Brian brought up the point of centripetal force at the equator, while never providing an exact figure. I took the few seconds required to work it out and the standard formula for centripetal acceleration results in {(v^2)/r} ={(465.11 m/s)^2}/6378100 m = .0339 m/s^2 acceleration at the equator compared to a gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2. The problem with most of these pseudoscientific theories, like Brian’s, is that they rely on qualitative analysis as opposed to quantitative analysis. To phrase it another way they have no calculations to back them up and instead rely on obfuscation and sophistry. For instance Brian brought up the point of centripetal force at the equator, while never providing an exact figure. I took the few seconds required to work it out and the standard formula for centripetal acceleration results in {(v^2)/r} ={(465.11 m/s)^2}/6378100 m = .0339 m/s^2 acceleration at the equator compared to a gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s^2.

]]> By: Richard C http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1061094 Richard C Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:02:19 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1061094 The problem with the flight schedule proof is that it violates the rules set out in the article. The article said the proof couldn't start by assuming the roundness of the earth. The people who based the schedules on 7238 miles of flight for Buenos Aires to Melbourne and 11,480 miles from Melbourne to Hong Kong were obviously making the very reasonable assumption of a more-or-less spherical Earth. While that's a reasonable assumption to make if you're setting flight schedules, it's a prohibited assumption under the rules of this contest. Thus, your proof fails to win the prize. Thanks for playing. I'm sure they were presented with other attempts at least as logical as the flight schedule attempt, and I'm sure they denied them. The problem with the flight schedule proof is that it violates the rules set out in the article. The article said the proof couldn’t start by assuming the roundness of the earth. The people who based the schedules on 7238 miles of flight for Buenos Aires to Melbourne and 11,480 miles from Melbourne to Hong Kong were obviously making the very reasonable assumption of a more-or-less spherical Earth. While that’s a reasonable assumption to make if you’re setting flight schedules, it’s a prohibited assumption under the rules of this contest. Thus, your proof fails to win the prize. Thanks for playing.

I’m sure they were presented with other attempts at least as logical as the flight schedule attempt, and I’m sure they denied them.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060990 brian Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:58:46 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060990 I posted this in April, and honestly I believe I deserve the $5,000.00 this is a scam! # Proof that the earth is round can be solved with airflight distances and shedules. Flight estimates from Buenos Aires to Melbourne Australia are based on 7238 miles of flight. From Melbourne to Hong Kong they are 11,480 miles of flight. clearly if the map of earth above is correct you should be able to reach Hong Kong from Melbourne well before a flight from Melbourne to Buenos aires. But the plane is obviously taking advantage of the closer proximity of Melbourne to Buenos Aires by travelling off the edge of the earth. lol Comment by brian — April 7, 2008 @ 3:37 pm refute the above logic without including every pilot in the world in on a cover-up silence conspiracy. I posted this in April, and honestly I believe I deserve the $5,000.00 this is a scam!
#

Proof that the earth is round can be solved with airflight distances and shedules. Flight estimates from Buenos Aires to Melbourne Australia are based on 7238 miles of flight.
From Melbourne to Hong Kong they are 11,480 miles of flight. clearly if the map of earth above is correct you should be able to reach Hong Kong from Melbourne well before a flight from Melbourne to Buenos aires. But the plane is obviously taking advantage of the closer proximity of Melbourne to Buenos Aires by travelling off the edge of the earth. lol

Comment by brian — April 7, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
refute the above logic without including every pilot in the world in on a cover-up silence conspiracy.

]]> By: JMyint http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060986 JMyint Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:29:19 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060986 Really as long as you meet your basic needs, and enough wants to be relatively comfortable what else is there? Few people could tell you what the issues in the 1908 election were. Even though that was a year of economic crisis and a bail out of the stock market. That was only 100 years ago. People just don't like to be reminded that in the grand scheme if the sun were to go into super nova tomorrow the rest of the universe would barely take notice. Really as long as you meet your basic needs, and enough wants to be relatively comfortable what else is there? Few people could tell you what the issues in the 1908 election were. Even though that was a year of economic crisis and a bail out of the stock market. That was only 100 years ago.

People just don’t like to be reminded that in the grand scheme if the sun were to go into super nova tomorrow the rest of the universe would barely take notice.

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060983 jayessell Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:19:55 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060983 ? ...and everything you thought was so important doesn't matter... ? ? …and everything you thought was so important doesn’t matter… ?

]]> By: JMyint http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060976 JMyint Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:12:27 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1060976 The reason that many people cannot accept the things that science has discovered is because if those thing are true then they really a insignificant in the scope of the universe. Each person is just one of six and a half billion individuals living on a small planet, orbiting a medeocre star, at the edge of an average galaxy that is one of tens of billions of galaxies. Life is short and brutal and in a thousand years nobody will care about anything you did. So have a good time, learn something, do something for yourself, do something for someone else. The reason that many people cannot accept the things that science has discovered is because if those thing are true then they really a insignificant in the scope of the universe. Each person is just one of six and a half billion individuals living on a small planet, orbiting a medeocre star, at the edge of an average galaxy that is one of tens of billions of galaxies. Life is short and brutal and in a thousand years nobody will care about anything you did.

So have a good time, learn something, do something for yourself, do something for someone else.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058420 brian Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:15:57 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058420 Absolutely!!!!! It is presently responding to a thread on the shape of the world with a cleverly placed diversion question on simple cells. Absolutely!!!!!
It is presently responding to a thread on the shape of the world with a cleverly placed diversion question on simple cells.

]]> By: Byron Ware http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058418 Byron Ware Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:50:35 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058418 Does anyone still believe in the simple cell? icr.org Does anyone still believe in the simple cell? icr.org

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058197 brian Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:08:45 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058197 What is being promoted as a flat world surrounded by a planetarium type sky is reminiscent of the movie Truman. A very scary sci-fi meets reality T.V. show aimed at fooling 1 person, but in this case billions. I don't buy it. On a flat earth the sun would be visible at all times and if it was not then all areas of the earth would be dark at the same time. The only way to have the sun set and rise is if it falls below the horizon. It cant do that on a flat earth and still light the earth from below the edge of a supposed flat earth. What is being promoted as a flat world surrounded by a planetarium type sky is reminiscent of the movie Truman. A very scary sci-fi meets reality T.V. show aimed at fooling 1 person, but in this case billions. I don’t buy it. On a flat earth the sun would be visible at all times and if it was not then all areas of the earth would be dark at the same time. The only way to have the sun set and rise is if it falls below the horizon. It cant do that on a flat earth and still light the earth from below the edge of a supposed flat earth.

]]> By: huh http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058122 huh Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:47:53 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1058122 This guy is totally right. The earth isn't round. Neither are the other planets we can see in the sky. They only look round because of a complex optical illusion that involves infrared rays. This guy is totally right. The earth isn’t round. Neither are the other planets we can see in the sky. They only look round because of a complex optical illusion that involves infrared rays.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052405 brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:55:12 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052405 Start Here, At the official U.S. Patent Department. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5676977.PN.&OS=PN/5676977&RS=PN/5676977 Start Here,

At the official U.S. Patent Department.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi.....PN/5676977

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052404 brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:48:49 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052404 I have been on websites that discuss in great detail the scientific,mathematical explanation for everything from black hole theory to gravity theory and back. We cant cure AIDS,cancer,diabetes,M.S.,Autism.......the list goes on, but we can supposedly measure the distance to Andromeda Galaxy, The precise heat of the suns outer surface and inner core. Please! They cant even actually land on the moon, if they could they would do it again now, but they wont because far too many people have wised up to this nonsense and have the equipment to catch the fabrication of written and filmed information. I suggest that the eath does not turn, yes it goes against everything we have been taught but what if i could prove to you, there is a cure for AIDS,Cancer, EBola, alzheimers and many others, you would then I hope begin to question the information we are fed. I have been on websites that discuss in great detail the scientific,mathematical explanation for everything from black hole theory to gravity theory and back. We cant cure AIDS,cancer,diabetes,M.S.,Autism…….the list goes on, but we can supposedly measure the distance to Andromeda Galaxy, The precise heat of the suns outer surface and inner core. Please! They cant even actually land on the moon, if they could they would do it again now, but they wont because far too many people have wised up to this nonsense and have the equipment to catch the fabrication of written and filmed information. I suggest that the eath does not turn, yes it goes against everything we have been taught but what if i could prove to you, there is a cure for AIDS,Cancer, EBola, alzheimers and many others, you would then I hope begin to question the information we are fed.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052403 brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:34:17 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052403 The poles make a complete turn at exactly the same rate as the equator. Take a globe with latitude and longitude marked, spin it and watch that 0 degrees longitude makes a complete circle at exactly the same time no matter what latitude you’re at. Correct but the centrifugal forces at the equator would be enormous by comparison to the poles. The poles make a complete turn at exactly the same rate as the equator. Take a globe with latitude and longitude marked, spin it and watch that 0 degrees longitude makes a complete circle at exactly the same time no matter what latitude you’re at.

Correct but the centrifugal forces at the equator would be enormous by comparison to the poles.

]]> By: Anne http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052395 Anne Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:51:15 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052395 The poles make a complete turn at exactly the same rate as the equator. Take a globe with latitude and longitude marked, spin it and watch that 0 degrees longitude makes a complete circle at exactly the same time no matter what latitude you're at. As far as hurricanes go, that's another matter entirely. For simplification purposes, the Earth rotates just slightly faster than the atmosphere surrounding it. So while they're both going east to west, the hurricane is traveling at a slightly slower speed and that's what makes them veer into places like Florida instead of Africa. That's a gross, gross oversimplification but it's essentially how things work. The poles make a complete turn at exactly the same rate as the equator. Take a globe with latitude and longitude marked, spin it and watch that 0 degrees longitude makes a complete circle at exactly the same time no matter what latitude you’re at.

As far as hurricanes go, that’s another matter entirely. For simplification purposes, the Earth rotates just slightly faster than the atmosphere surrounding it. So while they’re both going east to west, the hurricane is traveling at a slightly slower speed and that’s what makes them veer into places like Florida instead of Africa. That’s a gross, gross oversimplification but it’s essentially how things work.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052392 brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:24:12 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052392 So if everything is rotating at the same speed earth,ground and air from west to east how can a hurricane travel west off the Atlantic towards the Coast? It must first travel 1000 MPH before it can move against the wind effect of the earths rotation same with planes, the reason they encounter no resistance is there is no 1000 MPH rotation. And while we are on that subject if the earths equator and the poles are experiencing an equivalent rotation then why wouldn't the poles turn 360 degrees more frequently than the massive center of earth? Spin a globe and count how many rotations at the ends versus rotations at the center. And the $5,000 is for proving the earth is a Sphere not flat! My explanation of plane travel distances was meant to prove that. My argument about a rotating earth is another discussion entirely. So if everything is rotating at the same speed earth,ground and air from west to east how can a hurricane travel west off the Atlantic towards the Coast? It must first travel 1000 MPH before it can move against the wind effect of the earths rotation same with planes, the reason they encounter no resistance is there is no 1000 MPH rotation. And while we are on that subject if the earths equator and the poles are experiencing an equivalent rotation then why wouldn’t the poles turn 360 degrees more frequently than the massive center of earth? Spin a globe and count how many rotations at the ends versus rotations at the center.

And the $5,000 is for proving the earth is a Sphere not flat! My explanation of plane travel distances was meant to prove that. My argument about a rotating earth is another discussion entirely.

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052388 Charlie Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:13:20 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052388 Um, no, you didn't. Your theory about airplanes not being able to fly west is wrong. Relative to the center of the earth everything is rotating at roughly the same speed. The ground, the air AND the plane. So by your example, a plane flying west is really just slowing down by 500mph. I'm not sure what you're trying to say about the distances to stars, but we do get a very small parallax on near by start at different times on the year (depending on where the earth is in it's orbit around the sun). Distant stars do have a parallax, it's just too small for us to measure. Um, no, you didn’t. Your theory about airplanes not being able to fly west is wrong. Relative to the center of the earth everything is rotating at roughly the same speed. The ground, the air AND the plane. So by your example, a plane flying west is really just slowing down by 500mph.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say about the distances to stars, but we do get a very small parallax on near by start at different times on the year (depending on where the earth is in it’s orbit around the sun). Distant stars do have a parallax, it’s just too small for us to measure.

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052351 brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:15:22 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052351 The part about flying off the edge of the earth I am joking about, hence the lol at the end of my comment. I do think I have proven the earth to be round though with a simple flight reference. Now where's the 5 G's? The part about flying off the edge of the earth I am joking about, hence the lol at the end of my comment. I do think I have proven the earth to be round though with a simple flight reference. Now where’s the 5 G’s?

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052305 Charlie Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:55:57 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052305 Brian, are you serious? Brian, are you serious?

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052302 brian Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:37:42 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052302 Proof that the earth is round can be solved with airflight distances and shedules. Flight estimates from Buenos Aires to Melbourne Australia are based on 7238 miles of flight. From Melbourne to Hong Kong they are 11,480 miles of flight. clearly if the map of earth above is correct you should be able to reach Hong Kong from Melbourne well before a flight from Melbourne to Buenos aires. But the plane is obviously taking advantage of the closer proximity of Melbourne to Buenos Aires by travelling off the edge of the earth. lol Proof that the earth is round can be solved with airflight distances and shedules. Flight estimates from Buenos Aires to Melbourne Australia are based on 7238 miles of flight.
From Melbourne to Hong Kong they are 11,480 miles of flight. clearly if the map of earth above is correct you should be able to reach Hong Kong from Melbourne well before a flight from Melbourne to Buenos aires. But the plane is obviously taking advantage of the closer proximity of Melbourne to Buenos Aires by travelling off the edge of the earth. lol

]]> By: brian http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052299 brian Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:15:30 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1052299 The world is a round sphere I will give you no argument there. But not rotating. I believe there is a heat resistant core turning, and a liquid sea of magma also turning. But this does not create the momentum to turn the earth around it. rather it creates a pull (Gravity) on all that is around it much like the old dropping floor amusement park ride only the exact opposite force. rather than pushing you away as the ride does it pulls you in like a whirlpool. The airspace above ground is confined by an outer ring of space that also turns the blackness of space is in motion around our earth and exerts a pulling force of its own. It is these opposite pulls that keep our airspace confined and unable to mix. This has to do with the composition of our airspace and the lack of similar components in the blackness of space. At one time God allowed this force to slow down enough to drop an outer ring of water onto the earth thus flooding the globe quickly with a deluge. This outer ring of water allowed the gloge to experience identical temperatures everywhere. This is supported by archaeological finds in frozen tundras of elephants, exotic plants and trees etc. If we turn at roughly 1000 plus miles per hour in one direction, then any wind travelling in the opposite direction of earths rotation would therfore have to be going 1000 MPH plus its own windspeed in order to successfully push against earths natural airspeed. If airplanes can travel the same speed in either direction give or take 100 MPH for Jet stream then the air above us could not possibly be in motion at the same speed as the earth or planes could never fly west. Ever wonder why (if science is correct) that the position of star to star never changes yet some stars are milions of light years away from one another in distance from the earth. When you walk in a continuous direction and look at the same points to your right or left the objects that are closer move away from your line of sight quickly but the objects at a greater distance tend to stay where they are and the ratio of nearer objects to farther objects which cause this result are less than the distance ratios of the stars? There is much more but I will go for now. The world is a round sphere I will give you no argument there. But not rotating. I believe there is a heat resistant core turning, and a liquid sea of magma also turning. But this does not create the momentum to turn the earth around it. rather it creates a pull (Gravity) on all that is around it much like the old dropping floor amusement park ride only the exact opposite force. rather than pushing you away as the ride does it pulls you in like a whirlpool. The airspace above ground is confined by an outer ring of space that also turns the blackness of space is in motion around our earth and exerts a pulling force of its own. It is these opposite pulls that keep our airspace confined and unable to mix. This has to do with the composition of our airspace and the lack of similar components in the blackness of space.
At one time God allowed this force to slow down enough to drop an outer ring of water onto the earth thus flooding the globe quickly with a deluge. This outer ring of water allowed the gloge to experience identical temperatures everywhere. This is supported by archaeological finds in frozen tundras of elephants, exotic plants and trees etc.
If we turn at roughly 1000 plus miles per hour in one direction, then any wind travelling in the opposite direction of earths rotation would therfore have to be going 1000 MPH plus its own windspeed in order to successfully push against earths natural airspeed. If airplanes can travel the same speed in either direction give or take 100 MPH for Jet stream then the air above us could not possibly be in motion at the same speed as the earth or planes could never fly west.
Ever wonder why (if science is correct) that the position of star to star never changes yet some stars are milions of light years away from one another in distance from the earth. When you walk in a continuous direction and look at the same points to your right or left the objects that are closer move away from your line of sight quickly but the objects at a greater distance tend to stay where they are and the ratio of nearer objects to farther objects which cause this result are less than the distance ratios of the stars? There is much more but I will go for now.

]]> By: Mart http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1048200 Mart Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:59:57 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-1048200 Definition of FE'er (Flat Earther) by a RE'er (Round Earther) FE'er: The World is Flat RE'er: Why then, as a ship sails away in a calm sea, does it appears to fall below the HORIZON, explain FE'er: It doesn't, it just gets smaller, like railway lines appearing to merge in the distance RE'er: Get a telescope and look for the ship (you will at some point see just the top half of the ship) FE'er: Telescopes are a conspiracy RE'er: Thought you'd say that RE'er: Why can you not see MT Everest from MT Kilimanjaro with a Telescope (4000 miles away) FE'er: Answer a) Telescopes are a conspiracy, Answer b) MT Everest is a hoax (Filmed on a sound stage) RE'er: Yeah i'm spotting a pattern here Basically anything that disagrees with their theory MUST be a conspiracy. Even Physics, Geology and Astronomy Right then time for facts not delusions: GPS uses a minimum of 4 reference points (satelites) to calculate your exact location 'ON A SPHERE' by means of elementary triangulation , and using this navigation method people have, on many occasions flown directly South over the S.Pole (sorry - 'Wall Of Ice' to all you FE'ers). And guess what happened - Nothing, apart from the compass and GPS now stated that they were now heading North as expected. So theres nothing stopping someone chartering a flight to take some pictures of this 'Ice Wall' and the Edge of the World. We have plenty of proof for a spherical planet, yet somehow no pictures to support a flat one. Question: have you ever flown on a plane at dusk. If you fly east the Sun sets quicker if you fly west it sets slower (if you fly west fast enough, you can even make it rise again) - this is solid proof that the earth is rotating in a westerly direction (and when i say the Sun sets I DO NOT mean it gets smaller as you FE'ers would have us believe - I quite obviously mean it gradually drops below the HORIZON whilst maintaining its apparent size). Consider this question, Why do engineers build bridges with support towers that lean away from each other at the top - Answer: they dont - they stand them upright and the curvature of the earth does the rest - dont take my word for it - get a spirit level and a long tapemeasure and see for yourself. Or are bridges part of the conspiracy too. Come on now - give up - open your eyes and stop being stubborn. So the Definition of a Flat Earther is someone who when confronted with a truth they don't like/understand, just throws all known laws of reason, not to mention physics out of the window. They attempt to hide/discredit what might upset their whole belief system. Honestly I'm not a conspiritor - These are just the facts, If it looks like a sphere, behaves like a sphere and all rational tests prove its a sphere - Then it's a bloody sphere, ok, lol Basically FE'er are telling US not to believe the COMMON SENSE we have been taught, just because it's too complex for THEM to comprehend. For me its pretty simple, if you want to see a Spherical Earth then just get Google Earth, and for all you stubborn Flat Earthers theres always Google maps ;-) Definition of FE’er (Flat Earther) by a RE’er (Round Earther)
FE’er: The World is Flat
RE’er: Why then, as a ship sails away in a calm sea, does it appears to fall below the HORIZON, explain
FE’er: It doesn’t, it just gets smaller, like railway lines appearing to merge in the distance
RE’er: Get a telescope and look for the ship (you will at some point see just the top half of the ship)
FE’er: Telescopes are a conspiracy
RE’er: Thought you’d say that

RE’er: Why can you not see MT Everest from MT Kilimanjaro with a Telescope (4000 miles away)
FE’er: Answer a) Telescopes are a conspiracy, Answer b) MT Everest is a hoax (Filmed on a sound stage)
RE’er: Yeah i’m spotting a pattern here

Basically anything that disagrees with their theory MUST be a conspiracy. Even Physics, Geology and Astronomy

Right then time for facts not delusions:
GPS uses a minimum of 4 reference points (satelites) to calculate your exact location ‘ON A SPHERE’ by means of elementary triangulation , and using this navigation method people have, on many occasions flown directly South over the S.Pole (sorry - ‘Wall Of Ice’ to all you FE’ers). And guess what happened - Nothing, apart from the compass and GPS now stated that they were now heading North as expected. So theres nothing stopping someone chartering a flight to take some pictures of this ‘Ice Wall’ and the Edge of the World. We have plenty of proof for a spherical planet, yet somehow no pictures to support a flat one.

Question: have you ever flown on a plane at dusk. If you fly east the Sun sets quicker if you fly west it sets slower (if you fly west fast enough, you can even make it rise again) - this is solid proof that the earth is rotating in a westerly direction (and when i say the Sun sets I DO NOT mean it gets smaller as you FE’ers would have us believe - I quite obviously mean it gradually drops below the HORIZON whilst maintaining its apparent size).

Consider this question, Why do engineers build bridges with support towers that lean away from each other at the top - Answer: they dont - they stand them upright and the curvature of the earth does the rest - dont take my word for it - get a spirit level and a long tapemeasure and see for yourself. Or are bridges part of the conspiracy too. Come on now - give up - open your eyes and stop being stubborn.

So the Definition of a Flat Earther is someone who when confronted with a truth they don’t like/understand, just throws all known laws of reason, not to mention physics out of the window. They attempt to hide/discredit what might upset their whole belief system. Honestly I’m not a conspiritor - These are just the facts, If it looks like a sphere, behaves like a sphere and all rational tests prove its a sphere - Then it’s a bloody sphere, ok, lol

Basically FE’er are telling US not to believe the COMMON SENSE we have been taught, just because it’s too complex for THEM to comprehend. For me its pretty simple, if you want to see a Spherical Earth then just get Google Earth, and for all you stubborn Flat Earthers theres always Google maps ;-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-902574 Anonymous Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:11:11 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-902574 The best part of this was the advertisements. The best part of this was the advertisements.

]]> By: john Ingles http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-866205 john Ingles Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:34:01 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-866205 also if you don't believe that then read up on the force of gravity and the fact that a mass the size of earth has so much gravity that it is required by physical law to assume the shape of an almost perfect sphere. also if you don’t believe that then read up on the force of gravity and the fact that a mass the size of earth has so much gravity that it is required by physical law to assume the shape of an almost perfect sphere.

]]> By: john Ingles http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-866185 john Ingles Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:28:59 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-866185 If you go to the top of a high mountain you can see the curvature of the earth. Then, all you need is some trigometry and a knowledge of just how far your reference points are from the mountain. If you go to the top of a high mountain you can see the curvature of the earth. Then, all you need is some trigometry and a knowledge of just how far your reference points are from the mountain.

]]> By: incubus http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-745095 incubus Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:26:36 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-745095 Yeah nice article, just goes to show people will believe anything they want regardless of reality. thousand miles out in space and takes a movie of a globular world turning on its axis. What do you know someone (Apollo astronauts) have already done just that, guess none of those flat earth society peeps bothered to check since the 1600s. :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXC_EdDJts Yeah nice article, just goes to show people will believe anything they want regardless of reality.

thousand miles out in space and takes a movie of a globular world turning on its axis.

What do you know someone (Apollo astronauts) have already done just that, guess none of those flat earth society peeps bothered to check since the 1600s. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXC_EdDJts

]]> By: sam http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-405493 sam Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:01:40 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-405493 That article made me chuckle a good bit. Awesome find! :D That article made me chuckle a good bit. Awesome find! :D

]]> By: Michael Widner http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-943 Michael Widner Fri, 26 May 2006 00:21:11 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/19/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/#comment-943 Very interesting article... The State of Florida established a State Historic Site at Estero, which is where Cyrus Teed (Koresh - Hebrew for Cyrus) set up his "utopia" The park is there because the Koreshan were true pioneers in south Florida, not because of their beliefs. We have an "unofficial" site at http://koreshan.mwweb.org Very interesting article… The State of Florida established a State Historic Site at Estero, which is where Cyrus Teed (Koresh - Hebrew for Cyrus) set up his “utopia” The park is there because the Koreshan were true pioneers in south Florida, not because of their beliefs. We have an “unofficial” site at http://koreshan.mwweb.org

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