Comments on: Compressed AIR MOTOR Runs Car http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/ Yesterday's tomorrow, today. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:34:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ws160 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1062143 ws160 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:26:22 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1062143 People keep ref to the above as an ad. I got the impression it was a one page news account just like they print today in Popular Science or Popular Mec. there is another company Magnetic Air Car Inc. that is putting together a phototype in Calif. They are an R&D think tank. they want to prove the concept, then lic it out to auto builders to put into production. It uses batteries to get the who thing started, People keep ref to the above as an ad. I got the impression it was a one page news account just like they print today in Popular Science or Popular Mec. there is another company Magnetic Air Car Inc. that is putting together a phototype in Calif. They are an R&D think tank. they want to prove the concept, then lic it out to auto builders to put into production. It uses batteries to get the who thing started,

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1060300 jayessell Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:05:31 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1060300 Like I said in #11. One company is trying to develop a dual action engine. Compressed air for short trips, internal combustion for long trips. Like I said in #11.

One company is trying to develop a dual action engine.
Compressed air for short trips, internal combustion for long trips.

]]> By: Toronto http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1060280 Toronto Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:16:41 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1060280 But compressed air isn't an energy source, it's a storage medium, like hydrogen or batteries or big rubber bands. It does, in theory, allow offsets such as not burning stuff in high-density situations, or using 'off peak' power to recharge, or using wind/solar/atomic power indirectly for transportation. But compressed air isn’t an energy source, it’s a storage medium, like hydrogen or batteries or big rubber bands.

It does, in theory, allow offsets such as not burning stuff in high-density situations, or using ‘off peak’ power to recharge, or using wind/solar/atomic power indirectly for transportation.

]]> By: Peter Tew http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1059513 Peter Tew Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:25:31 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1059513 Just read where Tata Motors of India (world's first $2500 car) is in negotiations with MDI in France to go into production of an "air motor" vehicle. Maybe that's why you can't buy one yet. I would like to see a commercial alternative-fuel car just to show the world we know how to do it! Just read where Tata Motors of India (world’s first $2500 car) is in negotiations with MDI in France to go into production of an “air motor” vehicle. Maybe that’s why you can’t buy one yet. I would like to see a commercial alternative-fuel car just to show the world we know how to do it!

]]> By: Dan http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1058977 Dan Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:58:57 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1058977 This article does not describe a perpetual motion machine as suggested by some posts as it requires an electric heater running from a battery. It is however still great technology and is currently being developed by various companies who are aiming at putting it into production. Including Tata and Ford. A copmany in Melbourne have developed an engine for the car www.it-mdienergy.com Cheers. This article does not describe a perpetual motion machine as suggested by some posts as it requires an electric heater running from a battery. It is however still great technology and is currently being developed by various companies who are aiming at putting it into production. Including Tata and Ford. A copmany in Melbourne have developed an engine for the car http://www.it-mdienergy.com

Cheers.

]]> By: de Charentenay http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057916 de Charentenay Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:52:55 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057916 He guys, I'm trying to buy one of those 'French' air compressed cars (as I'm in France should not be so difficult) but cannot find anyone who want to sell it. Even MDI motors, on their website, you can just say you are interested. (Very French : invent but avoid selling, money can hurt). Anyone who has an idea where I can buy for real that stuff ? As I just have to go to office in the morning and back home in the evening, which is a total 40 km, this is the most perfect solution for me. No gazoline, no batteries, a roof for rain, and 4 weel to stick on snow. Maybe I'm not the only one in this situation. Say... 100 million potential customers ! Best Thomas He guys, I’m trying to buy one of those ‘French’ air compressed cars (as I’m in France should not be so difficult) but cannot find anyone who want to sell it. Even MDI motors, on their website, you can just say you are interested. (Very French : invent but avoid selling, money can hurt).

Anyone who has an idea where I can buy for real that stuff ?

As I just have to go to office in the morning and back home in the evening, which is a total 40 km, this is the most perfect solution for me. No gazoline, no batteries, a roof for rain, and 4 weel to stick on snow.

Maybe I’m not the only one in this situation. Say… 100 million potential customers !

Best

Thomas

]]> By: yusef neimat http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057758 yusef neimat Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:46:02 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057758 i am yusef from gordan cuontery arab i have invention motor car and he work from onther think not petrol i am relly want help the peopl in the world my invention storing i am yusef from gordan cuontery arab i have invention motor car and he work from onther think not petrol i am relly want help the peopl in the world my invention storing

]]> By: JD http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057093 JD Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:43:22 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057093 Sure glad to see The Air Car discussed. Taking a light weight front engined rear wheel drive vehicle, pull engine & radiator, clutch assembly. Bolt a freewheeling radial air motor to the transmission. Install carbon fiber air tank where motor & radiator was. Use a needle valve & safty valve between air tank and motor for speed control & psi reduction. Put small scuba compressor in trunk with geared down DC motor to pump up main air tank. Add solar panels on roof, trunk and hood to drive the DC motor. Hopefully you could compress air for 20 to 30 miles of city driving per day in Sunny climates. Sincerely Submitted, JDH Sure glad to see The Air Car discussed. Taking a light weight front engined rear wheel drive vehicle, pull engine & radiator, clutch assembly. Bolt a freewheeling radial air motor to the transmission. Install carbon fiber air tank where motor & radiator was. Use a needle valve & safty valve between air tank and motor for speed control & psi reduction. Put small scuba compressor in trunk with geared down DC motor to pump up main air tank. Add solar panels on roof, trunk and hood to drive the DC motor. Hopefully you could compress air for 20 to 30 miles of city driving per day in Sunny climates. Sincerely Submitted, JDH

]]> By: Mike http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057035 Mike Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:15:13 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1057035 i like this concept... im interested in learning how to build one. i've been researching how to take any car currently i pick up for cheap and doing the same concept and converting the gas motor and sealing it and making it compressed air engine. it has been done before and im very interested so if anyone knows more about this e-mail me :) i like this concept… im interested in learning how to build one. i’ve been researching how to take any car currently i pick up for cheap and doing the same concept and converting the gas motor and sealing it and making it compressed air engine. it has been done before and im very interested so if anyone knows more about this e-mail me :)

]]> By: compressed air motor http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056312 compressed air motor Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:19:05 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056312 [...] with a newly-developed compressed air motor, whizzed around the city streets at not one cent of ...http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/trackback/Air Dryers lower dewpoint without moving parts or electricity. - ThomasNet Industrial News [...] [...] with a newly-developed compressed air motor, whizzed around the city streets at not one cent of …http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/trackback/Air Dryers lower dewpoint without moving parts or electricity. - ThomasNet Industrial News [...]

]]> By: Eliyahu http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056209 Eliyahu Sat, 31 May 2008 16:16:44 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056209 If the car were actually able to create its own compressed air as it goes, why would it need four huge cylinders of compressed air on the back? Even if we allow for some possible regenerative braking to recover some air into the system, the basic principles of thermodynamics teach us that you can't get something from nothing. In other words, there's no such thing as free lunch, and perpetual motion machines won't work any better now than they did during the hayday of such scammers. If the car were actually able to create its own compressed air as it goes, why would it need four huge cylinders of compressed air on the back? Even if we allow for some possible regenerative braking to recover some air into the system, the basic principles of thermodynamics teach us that you can’t get something from nothing. In other words, there’s no such thing as free lunch, and perpetual motion machines won’t work any better now than they did during the hayday of such scammers.

]]> By: Matt Burkholder http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056202 Matt Burkholder Sat, 31 May 2008 14:52:33 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1056202 There appear to be two discussions going on around this ad. First the ad does appear to be a scam. Where it claims to be heated, used, cooled, and returned to the tank is a process that is not possible without outside energy. He is describing a perpetual motion machine which cannot exist. I though at one point it was referring to getting free air from filling stations (they used to do that) to run your car at no cost. That would have been possible unit the owners caught on and started charging for air. Second, there are groups working on legitimate air cars that use compressed air to power the vehicle. Air power may be a cheaper, simpler, better way to store power and transport it with the vehicle. Any claims about 'zero pollution' depend entirely on the source of the power used to compress the air. If that power source is fossil fuels then the car still produces carbon emissions. Unfortunately bad science like the ad above continues to spread. I watched a show on one of the 'factual' channels (discovery or history) talking about modern air powered cars and motors. The announcer made the implication the you could use a air motor to run your compressor to power your air motor. Another impossible machine! There appear to be two discussions going on around this ad. First the ad does appear to be a scam. Where it claims to be heated, used, cooled, and returned to the tank is a process that is not possible without outside energy. He is describing a perpetual motion machine which cannot exist. I though at one point it was referring to getting free air from filling stations (they used to do that) to run your car at no cost. That would have been possible unit the owners caught on and started charging for air.

Second, there are groups working on legitimate air cars that use compressed air to power the vehicle. Air power may be a cheaper, simpler, better way to store power and transport it with the vehicle. Any claims about ‘zero pollution’ depend entirely on the source of the power used to compress the air. If that power source is fossil fuels then the car still produces carbon emissions.

Unfortunately bad science like the ad above continues to spread. I watched a show on one of the ‘factual’ channels (discovery or history) talking about modern air powered cars and motors. The announcer made the implication the you could use a air motor to run your compressor to power your air motor. Another impossible machine!

]]> By: Carl Pinkston http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054996 Carl Pinkston Fri, 16 May 2008 16:31:14 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054996 Come on, it is a joke... he was a scammer.. similar to his invention "the absorber" that gets electricy out of the air, while he was serving his prison time in arizona.. Come on, it is a joke… he was a scammer.. similar to his invention “the absorber” that gets electricy out of the air, while he was serving his prison time in arizona..

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054248 jayessell Sun, 04 May 2008 22:26:44 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054248 It's like an electric car but using compressed air tanks instead of rechargeable batteries. Energy is needed to compress the air but there's nothing stopping it from being wind, solar, hydro or nuclear. No greenhouse gases! And... no toxic battery materials! (Sheesh! Why am I having trouble posting?) It’s like an electric car but using compressed air tanks
instead of rechargeable batteries.
Energy is needed to compress the air but there’s
nothing stopping it from being wind, solar, hydro or nuclear.
No greenhouse gases!
And… no toxic battery materials!

(Sheesh! Why am I having trouble posting?)

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054247 jayessell Sun, 04 May 2008 22:17:01 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054247 Google for FRENCH AIR CAR Google for FRENCH AIR CAR

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054246 jayessell Sun, 04 May 2008 22:11:20 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054246 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4

]]> By: Paresh http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054236 Paresh Sun, 04 May 2008 16:01:17 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054236 IT STILL EXCITES ME WHEN I HEAR, READ AND SEE AIR MOTOR OR AIR TECHNOLOGY, EVER SINCE I'VE COME ACROSS IT, WHICH WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. I KNOW THAT THE TIME IS COMING FOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY TO OUTRUN THE OLD "SO CALLED SUPER" ENERGY WHICH WE ALL ARE RELIENT ON. WE ARE LIVING IN EXCITING TIME...WAY TO GO GUYS IT STILL EXCITES ME WHEN I HEAR, READ AND SEE AIR MOTOR OR AIR TECHNOLOGY, EVER SINCE I’VE COME ACROSS IT, WHICH WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. I KNOW THAT THE TIME IS COMING FOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGY TO OUTRUN THE OLD “SO CALLED SUPER” ENERGY WHICH WE ALL ARE RELIENT ON. WE ARE LIVING IN EXCITING TIME…WAY TO GO GUYS

]]> By: Rishabh Chaddha http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054199 Rishabh Chaddha Sat, 03 May 2008 19:49:04 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1054199 THE AIR MOTOR CAR IS THE BEST INVENTION IN THE AUTOMOBILE SECTOR.THE YOUNG ENGINEER SHOULD HAVE TO WORK IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OUR EARTH NEEDS IT BECAUSE IT IS POLLUTION FREE.SO ALL THE BEST TO ALL THE ENGINEERS. THE AIR MOTOR CAR IS THE BEST INVENTION IN THE AUTOMOBILE SECTOR.THE YOUNG ENGINEER SHOULD HAVE TO WORK IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OUR EARTH NEEDS IT BECAUSE IT IS POLLUTION FREE.SO ALL THE BEST TO ALL THE ENGINEERS.

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1052597 Charlie Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:19:41 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1052597 This site is the original source for the scan. The original is from the January 1932 issue of Modern Mechanix magazine. This site is the original source for the scan. The original is from the January 1932 issue of Modern Mechanix magazine.

]]> By: NeoSaint99 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1052563 NeoSaint99 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:13:17 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1052563 What is the source of this advert? I have found it on several sites but am still unable to find out where it came from As mentioned above, it seems to discribe a perpetual motion machine This sort of machine cannot exist according to the laws of classical physics And this machine definitely operates according to these laws by the description of it What is the source of this advert?
I have found it on several sites but am still unable to find out where it came from
As mentioned above, it seems to discribe a perpetual motion machine
This sort of machine cannot exist according to the laws of classical physics
And this machine definitely operates according to these laws by the description of it

]]> By: rangani yogesh http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1047636 rangani yogesh Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:12:46 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-1047636 it is good invention for our future ,i salute them bywhom developed this car. it is good invention for our future ,i salute them bywhom developed this car.

]]> By: Justin http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-739500 Justin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:05:22 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-739500 so does this car actually run on compressed air or is it more of a sterling-heat engine? so does this car actually run on compressed air or is it more of a sterling-heat engine?

]]> By: Hemmings Auto Blogs » Blog Archive » early Toyotas, compressed-air car and the pres’s new whips http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-13910 Hemmings Auto Blogs » Blog Archive » early Toyotas, compressed-air car and the pres’s new whips Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:02:48 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-13910 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-12390 jayessell Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:34:24 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/09/22/compressed-air-motor-runs-car/#comment-12390 Modern compressed air car: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/10/what_about_comp.php The article seems to describe a perpetual motion machine. A battery heats the air as it enters the engine and then the air returns to the tank? Not one cent for fuel? Even the people of 1932 must have wondered about the cost of compressing the air. I'd like to see the letters from readers in the months following this article. Modern compressed air car:
http://www.treehugger.com/file.....t_comp.php

The article seems to describe a perpetual motion machine.
A battery heats the air as it enters the engine and then
the air returns to the tank?
Not one cent for fuel?
Even the people of 1932 must have wondered about the cost
of compressing the air.
I’d like to see the letters from readers in the
months following this article.

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