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	<title>Comments on: EXPERIMENTAL Arc Furnace MELTS ANYTHING  (May, 1933)</title>
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		<title>By: Thuringen</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/03/19/experimental-arc-furnace-melts-anything/comment-page-1/#comment-1093628</link>
		<dc:creator>Thuringen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bessemer converters are sepeate from the furnace - cruicible action. it&#039;s only after the pig iron has been melted down that it is them poured into a seperate, specially designed cruicible for the application of compressed air. 

the cruicible also has to be made of special refractories which are able to participate in the reactions to some extent, depending on the phosporus content of the initial melt and the desired qualities of the final product 

Not to mention that if that were a bessermer converter he were leaning over, everything above his shoulders would be gone. 

though that might be fun too . . . &quot;build an arc furnace/bessemer converter at home, and get to play home mortician for free!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bessemer converters are sepeate from the furnace &#8211; cruicible action. it&#8217;s only after the pig iron has been melted down that it is them poured into a seperate, specially designed cruicible for the application of compressed air. </p>
<p>the cruicible also has to be made of special refractories which are able to participate in the reactions to some extent, depending on the phosporus content of the initial melt and the desired qualities of the final product </p>
<p>Not to mention that if that were a bessermer converter he were leaning over, everything above his shoulders would be gone. </p>
<p>though that might be fun too . . . &#8220;build an arc furnace/bessemer converter at home, and get to play home mortician for free!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stuff</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/03/19/experimental-arc-furnace-melts-anything/comment-page-1/#comment-1089672</link>
		<dc:creator>stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to produce more molten steel/iron is to have a small opening at the bottom of the crucible where pressurized air is to be blown through the molten iron. The air will react with impurities, creating heat, carbon dioxide (monoxide as well), and a very pure iron for backyard tech. It&#039;s the hobo Bessemer converter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to produce more molten steel/iron is to have a small opening at the bottom of the crucible where pressurized air is to be blown through the molten iron. The air will react with impurities, creating heat, carbon dioxide (monoxide as well), and a very pure iron for backyard tech. It&#8217;s the hobo Bessemer converter</p>
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		<title>By: Novoltny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novoltny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha!! dad with his new hobby, all dressed up with his  fancy bow tie and  funky hair-do, well hey: he&#039;s just having some harmless fun melting F*CK*NG! STEEL with his BARE hands, UNPROTECTED eyes, and he&#039;s doing it on the F*CK*NG KITCHENTABLE!!!! 
His eyes will be fried withing seconds, then he will SCREAM like no one ever screamed before, completely insane of pain he kicks the white-hot crucible of the table, that will fall in his lap, then he and his house burns down, leaving nothing but some  charcoal of this Hero of Science 

whoaaaaHEY! You&#039;ve gotta love these crazy maniacs that made these kind of suicide magazines, those where the days, aint?

haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha!! dad with his new hobby, all dressed up with his  fancy bow tie and  funky hair-do, well hey: he&#8217;s just having some harmless fun melting F*CK*NG! STEEL with his BARE hands, UNPROTECTED eyes, and he&#8217;s doing it on the F*CK*NG KITCHENTABLE!!!!<br />
His eyes will be fried withing seconds, then he will SCREAM like no one ever screamed before, completely insane of pain he kicks the white-hot crucible of the table, that will fall in his lap, then he and his house burns down, leaving nothing but some  charcoal of this Hero of Science </p>
<p>whoaaaaHEY! You&#8217;ve gotta love these crazy maniacs that made these kind of suicide magazines, those where the days, aint?</p>
<p>haha!</p>
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		<title>By: ocean house</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/03/19/experimental-arc-furnace-melts-anything/comment-page-1/#comment-1076367</link>
		<dc:creator>ocean house</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AKA, the modern way: enjoy

This would work even better with an ac type arc welder home depot has one for 220 bux, however instead of building the device mentioned I would just use the transformer out of a large microwave oven known as a &quot;MOT&quot;and for this appliocation you want the tall transformers the little compact ones don&#039;t work as well. The primary coil of a MOT has sufficient reactance to sustain a small arc furnace, or build an arc welder for that matter. I built a MOT arc welder years back, welded up a storm with it and gave it to my nefue, he uses it at his work, still to this very day, the point is MOTS are perfect for making arc devices. The key to using MOT&#039;s is removing the high voltage winding with a hack saw, a hammer and a chisel. The high voltage winding is very dangerous, and must be removed without question. its easy to do without damaging the primary because MOT&#039;s have a 3 volt filament winding and a stack of metal magnetic shunts
between the 2 coils that serves to protect the primary while are cutting and pinching the the secondary out also if the 3 volt coil becomes shorted just un-short it, only remove it if it can be removed without disturbing the shunts.  I would sub-just for ultimate heat using both phases of your household wiring aka 220v, feed each hot leg into its own MOT transformer primary, before going to the carbons, this will impart quite a lot of energy into you arc furnace, at this point you will need a silicon carbide cursible to contain the molten remains of the Denver fire clay crucible (DFC ceramics: google) as pictured above. its worth noting that no one need to take app-art batteries most all welding shops stock copper clad carbon electrodes for the carbon arc cutting / welding process and the are available in a varity of sizes up top 1/2 inch , and are mend for arc processes, they ave very affordable even by kids on lunch money budgets, and fire clay crucibles are the same, in the less than $3 each range, and ofcourse dead microwave ovens are free at appliance repair shops if you ask nicely

What do shunts do?
the shunts serve to limit the current that can flow through the primary, dont remove the any of the shunts unless you want more power to your arc, and only remove them one thin strip at a time until the  desired power level is reached. however i don&#039;t recommend removing the shunts because the balance the current flow through the primary winding that you are using for ballast I would say that if you want more heat use the 2 MOT 220 Volt (2 opposing hot legs) method mentioned above will probably require plugging to a dryer outlet, unless your like mee and just wire directly to a split phase phase breaker straight from the mains pannel, its real easy, just hook the wires to the breaker then install the breaker (snaps right in) the set the breaker to the on posiation, most servace pannels have enough extra slots abvaible to plug another breaker in, as a power tap. 

BTW if your breaker is on and the 2 mots don&#039;t arc togather, you don&#039;t have a split phase breaker, you have a single phase breaker with 2 trips. 

Have fun and good luck, if i forgot anything just search MOT for the blanks

Ocean House</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKA, the modern way: enjoy</p>
<p>This would work even better with an ac type arc welder home depot has one for 220 bux, however instead of building the device mentioned I would just use the transformer out of a large microwave oven known as a &#8220;MOT&#8221;and for this appliocation you want the tall transformers the little compact ones don&#8217;t work as well. The primary coil of a MOT has sufficient reactance to sustain a small arc furnace, or build an arc welder for that matter. I built a MOT arc welder years back, welded up a storm with it and gave it to my nefue, he uses it at his work, still to this very day, the point is MOTS are perfect for making arc devices. The key to using MOT&#8217;s is removing the high voltage winding with a hack saw, a hammer and a chisel. The high voltage winding is very dangerous, and must be removed without question. its easy to do without damaging the primary because MOT&#8217;s have a 3 volt filament winding and a stack of metal magnetic shunts<br />
between the 2 coils that serves to protect the primary while are cutting and pinching the the secondary out also if the 3 volt coil becomes shorted just un-short it, only remove it if it can be removed without disturbing the shunts.  I would sub-just for ultimate heat using both phases of your household wiring aka 220v, feed each hot leg into its own MOT transformer primary, before going to the carbons, this will impart quite a lot of energy into you arc furnace, at this point you will need a silicon carbide cursible to contain the molten remains of the Denver fire clay crucible (DFC ceramics: google) as pictured above. its worth noting that no one need to take app-art batteries most all welding shops stock copper clad carbon electrodes for the carbon arc cutting / welding process and the are available in a varity of sizes up top 1/2 inch , and are mend for arc processes, they ave very affordable even by kids on lunch money budgets, and fire clay crucibles are the same, in the less than $3 each range, and ofcourse dead microwave ovens are free at appliance repair shops if you ask nicely</p>
<p>What do shunts do?<br />
the shunts serve to limit the current that can flow through the primary, dont remove the any of the shunts unless you want more power to your arc, and only remove them one thin strip at a time until the  desired power level is reached. however i don&#8217;t recommend removing the shunts because the balance the current flow through the primary winding that you are using for ballast I would say that if you want more heat use the 2 MOT 220 Volt (2 opposing hot legs) method mentioned above will probably require plugging to a dryer outlet, unless your like mee and just wire directly to a split phase phase breaker straight from the mains pannel, its real easy, just hook the wires to the breaker then install the breaker (snaps right in) the set the breaker to the on posiation, most servace pannels have enough extra slots abvaible to plug another breaker in, as a power tap. </p>
<p>BTW if your breaker is on and the 2 mots don&#8217;t arc togather, you don&#8217;t have a split phase breaker, you have a single phase breaker with 2 trips. </p>
<p>Have fun and good luck, if i forgot anything just search MOT for the blanks</p>
<p>Ocean House</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/03/19/experimental-arc-furnace-melts-anything/comment-page-1/#comment-1068704</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pencil leads contain a lot of clay.  I&#039;m not sure how well those&#039;ll work; I haven&#039;t had very good luck.  (I tried arc gouging with a &quot;graphite&quot; pencil as an electrode, and the tip of the thing just sort of exploded as soon as I struck an arc.)   I think I&#039;d be more inclined to try purpose-made gouging electrodes from a welding supply store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pencil leads contain a lot of clay.  I&#8217;m not sure how well those&#8217;ll work; I haven&#8217;t had very good luck.  (I tried arc gouging with a &#8220;graphite&#8221; pencil as an electrode, and the tip of the thing just sort of exploded as soon as I struck an arc.)   I think I&#8217;d be more inclined to try purpose-made gouging electrodes from a welding supply store.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mandaville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mandaville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having said that, I would like to add that I like this project, and I plan on building it.  Iron wire can be purchased at any Home Depot, and can be dipped in enamel to minimize losses due to eddy currents.  Pencil leads or carbon rods from carbon electrical cells can be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that, I would like to add that I like this project, and I plan on building it.  Iron wire can be purchased at any Home Depot, and can be dipped in enamel to minimize losses due to eddy currents.  Pencil leads or carbon rods from carbon electrical cells can be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mandaville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mandaville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments are well put.  The word &quot;goggles&quot; doesn&#039;t cover what is required here for safety.  A full face shield with the darkest lens available, and every inch of skin covereed on your entire body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments are well put.  The word &#8220;goggles&#8221; doesn&#8217;t cover what is required here for safety.  A full face shield with the darkest lens available, and every inch of skin covereed on your entire body.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOOOOOOOOps..has he still got any eyes left ? well not with the intensity of the uv..NO...sorry..I was looking for an arc furnace..not a method of self destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOOOOOOOOps..has he still got any eyes left ? well not with the intensity of the uv..NO&#8230;sorry..I was looking for an arc furnace..not a method of self destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: MAKE: Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAKE: Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Arc furnace that melts anything...&lt;/strong&gt;

 Handy for arc experiments, Popular Science 1933 HEAT so terrific that no known substance is able to withstand it for long can be developed in your home laboratory with nothing more than a pair of electric light carbons, a......</description>
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<p> Handy for arc experiments, Popular Science 1933 HEAT so terrific that no known substance is able to withstand it for long can be developed in your home laboratory with nothing more than a pair of electric light carbons, a&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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