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	<title>Comments on: PM Compares 6 Top Computers  (Jan, 1982)</title>
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		<title>By: The Cageybee</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1101503</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cageybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DrewE

Well flash storage used in computing is analogous to a hard disk, in that it is used for data and program storage. In that way it&#039;s also analogous to a cassette tape used for mass storage, but you wouldn&#039;t call that &#039;memory&#039;.

The term &#039;memory&#039; is widely accepted in computer science as working memory, i.e. RAM.

The two are not interchangeable.

Unfortunately, due to the general dumbing down we see all to often today, the difference is being lost, not helped by journo&#039;s who don&#039;t understand the difference.

I&#039;ve lost count of the reviews for phones, tablets, etc, that state that they have 16,32 or 64GB of memory. That&#039;s incorrect and unfortunately just propagates the misunderstanding leading to confusion for consumers who might not understand the difference between &#039;memory&#039;, or RAM and &#039;Flash memory&#039; or mass storage.

In regards to embedded systems, sure I guess you can map flash storage in that way. I&#039;d say it&#039;s only done for convenience sake though as it&#039;s still very much a separate entity . Any data within the flash area would still need to be copied into RAM in order to do any sort of processing/calculations on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DrewE</p>
<p>Well flash storage used in computing is analogous to a hard disk, in that it is used for data and program storage. In that way it&#8217;s also analogous to a cassette tape used for mass storage, but you wouldn&#8217;t call that &#8216;memory&#8217;.</p>
<p>The term &#8216;memory&#8217; is widely accepted in computer science as working memory, i.e. RAM.</p>
<p>The two are not interchangeable.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, due to the general dumbing down we see all to often today, the difference is being lost, not helped by journo&#8217;s who don&#8217;t understand the difference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lost count of the reviews for phones, tablets, etc, that state that they have 16,32 or 64GB of memory. That&#8217;s incorrect and unfortunately just propagates the misunderstanding leading to confusion for consumers who might not understand the difference between &#8216;memory&#8217;, or RAM and &#8216;Flash memory&#8217; or mass storage.</p>
<p>In regards to embedded systems, sure I guess you can map flash storage in that way. I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s only done for convenience sake though as it&#8217;s still very much a separate entity . Any data within the flash area would still need to be copied into RAM in order to do any sort of processing/calculations on it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cageybee</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1101501</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cageybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DrewE

Well flash storage used in computing is analogous to a hard disk, in that it is used for data and program storage. In that way it&#039;s also analogous to a cassette tape used for mass storage, but you wouldn&#039;t call that &#039;memory&#039;.

The term &#039;memory&#039; is widely accepted in computer science as working memory, i.e. RAM.

The two are not interchangeable.

Unfortunately, due to the general dumbing down we see all to often today, the difference is being lost, not helped by journo&#039;s who don&#039;t understand the difference.

I&#039;ve lost count of the reviews for phones, tablets, etc, that state that they have 16,32 or 64GB of memory. That&#039;s incorrect and unfortunately just propagates the misunderstanding leading to confusion for consumers who might not understand the difference between &#039;memory&#039;, or RAM and &#039;Flash memory&#039; or mass storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DrewE</p>
<p>Well flash storage used in computing is analogous to a hard disk, in that it is used for data and program storage. In that way it&#8217;s also analogous to a cassette tape used for mass storage, but you wouldn&#8217;t call that &#8216;memory&#8217;.</p>
<p>The term &#8216;memory&#8217; is widely accepted in computer science as working memory, i.e. RAM.</p>
<p>The two are not interchangeable.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, due to the general dumbing down we see all to often today, the difference is being lost, not helped by journo&#8217;s who don&#8217;t understand the difference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lost count of the reviews for phones, tablets, etc, that state that they have 16,32 or 64GB of memory. That&#8217;s incorrect and unfortunately just propagates the misunderstanding leading to confusion for consumers who might not understand the difference between &#8216;memory&#8217;, or RAM and &#8216;Flash memory&#8217; or mass storage.</p>
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		<title>By: DrewE</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1101496</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cageybee -- Microcomputer cassette interfaces of the era generally used a very simple two-tone sort of encoding, not much unlike 300 baud modems.  For the Apple II series, for example, a zero was a full cycle at 2 kHz and a one a full cycle at 1kHz, making for bits of variable length.

It&#039;s obvious that by a &quot;bit of information&quot; the author really meant a byte.  That is very sloppy usage, given the technical meaning of a bit, even if it might be reasonable in a more general sense (bit as in a little piece, such as &quot;a bit of cheese&quot;).

I&#039;m curious -- why are flash storage devices not &quot;memory&quot;?  Do they not remember things?  In many embedded systems the built-in flash is even addressed as memory in the main memory space (at least for reads).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cageybee &#8212; Microcomputer cassette interfaces of the era generally used a very simple two-tone sort of encoding, not much unlike 300 baud modems.  For the Apple II series, for example, a zero was a full cycle at 2 kHz and a one a full cycle at 1kHz, making for bits of variable length.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that by a &#8220;bit of information&#8221; the author really meant a byte.  That is very sloppy usage, given the technical meaning of a bit, even if it might be reasonable in a more general sense (bit as in a little piece, such as &#8220;a bit of cheese&#8221;).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious &#8212; why are flash storage devices not &#8220;memory&#8221;?  Do they not remember things?  In many embedded systems the built-in flash is even addressed as memory in the main memory space (at least for reads).</p>
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		<title>By: The Cageybee</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-1101492</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cageybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jayessell Thanks for posting that vid. Really amazing use of the tech.

In regards to the original article, I think the guy writing it, Neil Shapero, the electronics editor, had a slightly tenuous understanding of the tech.

He apparently has never heard of Manchester encoding, as he erroneously states that data stored on a tape is just the data stored as high and low beeps. Good luck trying to do that without some sort of clock multiplexed in with the data.

Later, in reference to disks he states: &quot;A disc with a radius of only 5-1/4 inches can store about 200,000 bits of information (each “bit” has room for a letter of English).&quot;

Well each &quot;bit&quot; can only be a 1 or 0 so unless you only ever intend to use 2 letters out of the possible 26 available in the English language, oh, and then there&#039;s things like &#039;space&#039; which might come in useful, you&#039;re gonna be SOL.

Unfortunately, very little has change in the tech jurno world. I read several articles every day put out by large news organizations which have pretty obvious errors that anyone with even the slightest understanding of computers would know were wrong.

My pet peev is calling flash storage in devices &#039;memory&#039; or worse &#039;RAM&#039;. What hope have lay people reading articles/reviews got if those writing them haven&#039;t got a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jayessell Thanks for posting that vid. Really amazing use of the tech.</p>
<p>In regards to the original article, I think the guy writing it, Neil Shapero, the electronics editor, had a slightly tenuous understanding of the tech.</p>
<p>He apparently has never heard of Manchester encoding, as he erroneously states that data stored on a tape is just the data stored as high and low beeps. Good luck trying to do that without some sort of clock multiplexed in with the data.</p>
<p>Later, in reference to disks he states: &#8220;A disc with a radius of only 5-1/4 inches can store about 200,000 bits of information (each “bit” has room for a letter of English).&#8221;</p>
<p>Well each &#8220;bit&#8221; can only be a 1 or 0 so unless you only ever intend to use 2 letters out of the possible 26 available in the English language, oh, and then there&#8217;s things like &#8216;space&#8217; which might come in useful, you&#8217;re gonna be SOL.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, very little has change in the tech jurno world. I read several articles every day put out by large news organizations which have pretty obvious errors that anyone with even the slightest understanding of computers would know were wrong.</p>
<p>My pet peev is calling flash storage in devices &#8216;memory&#8217; or worse &#8216;RAM&#8217;. What hope have lay people reading articles/reviews got if those writing them haven&#8217;t got a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sure, it&#8217;s a little late, but we figure it&#8217;s still useful &#124; Miscellaneous Heathen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out Popular Mechanics Top 6 Computers of 1982, via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The six best buys in home computers &#8212; in 1982 &#124; Richard Hartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>The six best buys in home computers &#8212; in 1982 &#124; Richard Hartley</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] a face-off between the top six personal computers such as the Apple ][, Atari 800 and IBM PC. It was originally published 25 years ago in Popular [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The six best buys in home computers &#8212; in 1982</title>
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		<dc:creator>The six best buys in home computers &#8212; in 1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-142285</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 4,7

1985 Apple //e computer amimation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbxJajIGBWo</description>
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<p>1985 Apple //e computer amimation!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbxJajIGBWo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbxJajIGBWo</a></p>
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		<title>By: WobbleBlog &#187; Popular Mechanics 6 Computer &#8220;Best Buys.&#8221; Of 1982.</title>
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		<dc:creator>WobbleBlog &#187; Popular Mechanics 6 Computer &#8220;Best Buys.&#8221; Of 1982.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] could not resist posting this. The story linked to here is a writeup from a 1982 issue of Popular Mechanics giving all the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nerdcore - A Blog about very cool Stuff. Und so.</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-128842</link>
		<dc:creator>Nerdcore - A Blog about very cool Stuff. Und so.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Modern Mechanix Â» PM Compares 6 Top Computers 1982! (tags: computer retro 80s hardware) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Shared Items (Daily Links) &#124; Chris Webb: Publishing, Media, and Technology</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-127383</link>
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		<description>[...] PM Compares 6 Top Computers of 1982 I used 4 of the 6! (tags: computing, retro, 80s) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Papa Mike&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 25-Year Old Computers</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-127052</link>
		<dc:creator>Papa Mike&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 25-Year Old Computers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Os melhores computadores do mundo&#8230; em 1982 &#187; CrisDias weblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] o site do cara que escaneou a revista americana Popular Mechanics deste belo ano com a reportagem &#8220;os melhores computadores do mundo&#8221;, onde figura o TRS-80 III, alma do CP-500, primeiro computador onde botei minhas mÃ£os geeks. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tonya and PQBON's WebLog</title>
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		<title>By: Freshpilot - The 6 best home computers of 1982</title>
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		<title>By: Freshpilot - The 6 best home computers of 1986</title>
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		<title>By: Mom Was Right--it is Nice to Share &#171; Sweetpea&#8217;s Garden</title>
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		<description>[...] A blast from the past: Popular Mechanics magazine reviews the top six computers available&#8211;in 1982. Ah, Apple II. I remember you from the West Middle School library. You were new and so cool, and I was the just a plain, shy girl hiding in the stacks. It&#8217;s amazing we met at all. Destiny? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HumorNiche &#187; 25-Year Old Computers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Charlies....

Only the &quot;Striped hills going up and down&quot; were made by my Apple//e, not the jet or paper airplane. They look so cool in color!

No... not real time viewable. It&#039;s been decades, but I think the complicated images took several (10 maybe) minutes per frame. 
Uncomlicated; about 10 seconds.

I was able to hold the shutter open as long as needed for multiple color exposures. That also gave me brightness control.

A good analogy would be stop-motion photography.

I switched to a 16mm later.

How would this be done in the present?
Can modern SD memory camcorders even do stop motion? Long exposures?

Theoreticly you should be able to save directly to DVD, even if each frame took hours to render. (Like Shrek)

(No. Save to HD, View/edit, THEN burn to DVD.)

I get enough spam now, a little more won&#039;t hurt.
Here&#039;s my email address, backwards:

ten.sireenoip@151lsj

(Ha! Let&#039;s see the spammers harvest THAT!)

Send me your email address and I&#039;ll email you the CineMagic article, after I scan it.
Mention &quot;Asteroid&quot; in the subject line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Charlies&#8230;.</p>
<p>Only the &#8220;Striped hills going up and down&#8221; were made by my Apple//e, not the jet or paper airplane. They look so cool in color!</p>
<p>No&#8230; not real time viewable. It&#8217;s been decades, but I think the complicated images took several (10 maybe) minutes per frame.<br />
Uncomlicated; about 10 seconds.</p>
<p>I was able to hold the shutter open as long as needed for multiple color exposures. That also gave me brightness control.</p>
<p>A good analogy would be stop-motion photography.</p>
<p>I switched to a 16mm later.</p>
<p>How would this be done in the present?<br />
Can modern SD memory camcorders even do stop motion? Long exposures?</p>
<p>Theoreticly you should be able to save directly to DVD, even if each frame took hours to render. (Like Shrek)</p>
<p>(No. Save to HD, View/edit, THEN burn to DVD.)</p>
<p>I get enough spam now, a little more won&#8217;t hurt.<br />
Here&#8217;s my email address, backwards:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:ten.sireenoip@151lsj">ten.sireenoip@151lsj</a></p>
<p>(Ha! Let&#8217;s see the spammers harvest THAT!)</p>
<p>Send me your email address and I&#8217;ll email you the CineMagic article, after I scan it.<br />
Mention &#8220;Asteroid&#8221; in the subject line.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarius One &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Top PCs of 1982</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarius One &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Top PCs of 1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Modern Mechanix Â» Popular Mechanics Compares 6 Top Computers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That&#039;s really awesome. Those were some rad graphics for an apple II. I&#039;d love to see the movie. Did the stuff actually animate at a viewable speed? Or did you just do it frame by frame for the camera? (I saw you had the camera controlled by the computer too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That&#8217;s really awesome. Those were some rad graphics for an apple II. I&#8217;d love to see the movie. Did the stuff actually animate at a viewable speed? Or did you just do it frame by frame for the camera? (I saw you had the camera controlled by the computer too).</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved my Apple ][, later replaced with a //e.

I helped my friends make a Super 8 SciFi movie using it.
I did the 2001-esqe instrument readouts.
Came in 3rd in CineMagics&#039; Super 8 category in 1983 (or so)

I Googled myself and found this:

http://www.atariarchives.org/cap/showpage.php?page=129

Too bad hardly any (none) of the images used in the film appear.

I really, &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; have to YouTube the movie.

PS: I souped up my Apple with a third party co-processor that came with an AppleDOS patch.
I also purchased a Beagle Brothers (I think) program to draw in the little used HiRes mode.
Surprisingly, I was able to run both at once!

Good times. Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved my Apple ][, later replaced with a //e.</p>
<p>I helped my friends make a Super 8 SciFi movie using it.<br />
I did the 2001-esqe instrument readouts.<br />
Came in 3rd in CineMagics&#8217; Super 8 category in 1983 (or so)</p>
<p>I Googled myself and found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atariarchives.org/cap/showpage.php?page=129" rel="nofollow">http://www.atariarchives.org/c.....p?page=129</a></p>
<p>Too bad hardly any (none) of the images used in the film appear.</p>
<p>I really, <i>really</i> have to YouTube the movie.</p>
<p>PS: I souped up my Apple with a third party co-processor that came with an AppleDOS patch.<br />
I also purchased a Beagle Brothers (I think) program to draw in the little used HiRes mode.<br />
Surprisingly, I was able to run both at once!</p>
<p>Good times. Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Casandro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s really odd is that the most advanced of those computer was actually the one with worst software. 
The TI99-4A had a new novel CPU which made it a great choice for multitasking. In fact it would have  been able to do task-switching considerably faster than just about any other processor.
To bad the rest of the hardware was so badly designed that it only had about 256 bytes of RAM and 16 kBytes of RAM it could only access via the graphics chip. The software was even worse. You couldn&#039;t access most of the hardware and no peek or poke was avaliable in the standard BASIC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really odd is that the most advanced of those computer was actually the one with worst software.<br />
The TI99-4A had a new novel CPU which made it a great choice for multitasking. In fact it would have  been able to do task-switching considerably faster than just about any other processor.<br />
To bad the rest of the hardware was so badly designed that it only had about 256 bytes of RAM and 16 kBytes of RAM it could only access via the graphics chip. The software was even worse. You couldn&#8217;t access most of the hardware and no peek or poke was avaliable in the standard BASIC.</p>
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		<title>By: meneame.net</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/12/pm-compares-6-top-computers/comment-page-1/#comment-126100</link>
		<dc:creator>meneame.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Top 6 PCs de 1982...&lt;/strong&gt;

El tiempo pasa... nos vamos poniendo viejos... (vÃ­a www.boingboing.net/2007/04/12/top_6_pcs_of_1982.html)...</description>
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<p>El tiempo pasa&#8230; nos vamos poniendo viejos&#8230; (vÃ­a <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/12/top_6_pcs_of_1982.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2007....._1982.html</a>)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boing Boing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boing Boing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Top 6 PCs of 1982...&lt;/strong&gt;

 In 1982, Popular Mechanics reviewed the top six personal computers, noting that, &quot;It used to be that programs were easy to copy and change. But manufacturers began to lose money as many people made copies of software and gave them to their friends. N...</description>
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<p> In 1982, Popular Mechanics reviewed the top six personal computers, noting that, &#8220;It used to be that programs were easy to copy and change. But manufacturers began to lose money as many people made copies of software and gave them to their friends. N&#8230;</p>
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