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	<title>Comments on: ELECTRIC MACHINE GUN IS SILENT</title>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071129</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Firebrand38, top marks to YOU for finding the &quot;Zero to Eighty&quot; excerpts that I failed to locate.

Our mad Google skillz be dovetailin... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Firebrand38, top marks to YOU for finding the &#8220;Zero to Eighty&#8221; excerpts that I failed to locate.</p>
<p>Our mad Google skillz be dovetailin&#8230; <img src='http://blog.modernmechanix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071105</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy: Top marks on finding that patent!

I checked out Northrup as well but none of his designs seemed to match this.
lifeboat.com/em/chapter.1.pdf
http://www.coilgun.info/northrup/home.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: Top marks on finding that patent!</p>
<p>I checked out Northrup as well but none of his designs seemed to match this.<br />
<a href="http://lifeboat.com/em/chapter.1.pdf" title="http://lifeboat.com/em/chapter.1.pdf" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">lifeboat.com/em/chapter.1.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.coilgun.info/northrup/home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.coilgun.info/northrup/home.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071104</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, of course, Firebrand38, my ravings aside...  Muzzle velocity and projectile mass are the two most important characteristics of a firearm (since it is basically a kinetic energy weapon) and neither are mentioned.

This could be the gun in question: http://www.google.com/patents?id=E4V5AAAAEBAJ

On the other hand Edwin F. Northrup was doing experiments on electromagnetic propulsion for space launches in the 1930&#039;s and apparently built several prototype launchers, but I haven&#039;t been able to find any substantial information about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, of course, Firebrand38, my ravings aside&#8230;  Muzzle velocity and projectile mass are the two most important characteristics of a firearm (since it is basically a kinetic energy weapon) and neither are mentioned.</p>
<p>This could be the gun in question: <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=E4V5AAAAEBAJ" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/patents?id=E4V5AAAAEBAJ</a></p>
<p>On the other hand Edwin F. Northrup was doing experiments on electromagnetic propulsion for space launches in the 1930&#8217;s and apparently built several prototype launchers, but I haven&#8217;t been able to find any substantial information about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071084</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy: Aw raspberries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: Aw raspberries!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071083</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t reply &quot;star-mangled spanner&quot; either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t reply &#8220;star-mangled spanner&#8221; either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071082</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, the projectile moving that fast through the air will melt it right away, and it will be like a shaped charge (or like Arthur Clarke&#039;s &quot;liquid metal bayonet&quot; weapon in Earthlight).

Remember, in space noone can tell how far in your cheek your tongue is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, the projectile moving that fast through the air will melt it right away, and it will be like a shaped charge (or like Arthur Clarke&#8217;s &#8220;liquid metal bayonet&#8221; weapon in Earthlight).</p>
<p>Remember, in space noone can tell how far in your cheek your tongue is.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071081</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy: (Buzzer sound)  Assuming facts not in evidence!

Yeah, a couple car batteries at the guys feet and a barrel a few feet long, that&#039;ll boost it up to near light speed!

And of course leaving the barrel that fast air resistance has nothing to do with anything.

And thanks for playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: (Buzzer sound)  Assuming facts not in evidence!</p>
<p>Yeah, a couple car batteries at the guys feet and a barrel a few feet long, that&#8217;ll boost it up to near light speed!</p>
<p>And of course leaving the barrel that fast air resistance has nothing to do with anything.</p>
<p>And thanks for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071078</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the one in &quot;Eraser&quot; had near-relativistic speed for its projectiles so assuming this was similar, as an anti-aircraft gun it would be perfect--no need to lead the target at all no matter what the aircraft&#039;s speed.  Just point and shoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the one in &#8220;Eraser&#8221; had near-relativistic speed for its projectiles so assuming this was similar, as an anti-aircraft gun it would be perfect&#8211;no need to lead the target at all no matter what the aircraft&#8217;s speed.  Just point and shoot.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071077</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revan343: Rate of fire for one thing (or lack of rate of fire) in comparison to the Browning machine guns of the time.  Weight of the power supply and the limits of battery life.  Also there&#039;s no mention of muzzle velocity.

Stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revan343: Rate of fire for one thing (or lack of rate of fire) in comparison to the Browning machine guns of the time.  Weight of the power supply and the limits of battery life.  Also there&#8217;s no mention of muzzle velocity.</p>
<p>Stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Revan343</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1071070</link>
		<dc:creator>Revan343</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, wait, wait.

How did this not catch on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, wait, wait.</p>
<p>How did this not catch on?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Demers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Demers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m not mistaken, those are batteries at the guy&#039;s feet.  Capacitors capable of holding enough juice to accelerate bullets to a useful velocity are nowhere in evidence, but those cables are impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken, those are batteries at the guy&#8217;s feet.  Capacitors capable of holding enough juice to accelerate bullets to a useful velocity are nowhere in evidence, but those cables are impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: knr</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1068769</link>
		<dc:creator>knr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made a very much simplified version some 45 years ago when I was a member of JETS.   I highly recommend that technically minded youth look to the excellent group for direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made a very much simplified version some 45 years ago when I was a member of JETS.   I highly recommend that technically minded youth look to the excellent group for direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa the traveller</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1068646</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa the traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steampunk lives!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steampunk lives!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: justenuff</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1068453</link>
		<dc:creator>justenuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awsome....with no carbon foot print....perfect!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awsome&#8230;.with no carbon foot print&#8230;.perfect!!</p>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1068424</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god! its the Gauss rifle from fallout 3!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my god! its the Gauss rifle from fallout 3!</p>
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		<title>By: sdin</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1064019</link>
		<dc:creator>sdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slik, modern coil guns are capable of rapid fire, the only limitation being the ability to provide enough power to the capacitors, however newspapers back in the good old days always inflated the numbers for a better sale. I would say it&#039;s perfectly plausible to have a 150 rpm coil gun given a large enough power source, however the m/ps of the projectile might not be much faster then throwing it by hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slik, modern coil guns are capable of rapid fire, the only limitation being the ability to provide enough power to the capacitors, however newspapers back in the good old days always inflated the numbers for a better sale. I would say it&#8217;s perfectly plausible to have a 150 rpm coil gun given a large enough power source, however the m/ps of the projectile might not be much faster then throwing it by hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-1052556</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the comutator is most likely electrically turned to contact the circuits. 

And if you use a high power pulse circuit precisely tuned and timed you can bypass any need for capacitors. because the caps are used in the circuits not of nesesity but because the caps have a faster discharge rate than the average battery or conventional power supply. with suficient pulse climb and timing the need for the caps disappears. another option is to switch the caps out just as fast as the coils are being fired for a recharge if caps are even used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the comutator is most likely electrically turned to contact the circuits. </p>
<p>And if you use a high power pulse circuit precisely tuned and timed you can bypass any need for capacitors. because the caps are used in the circuits not of nesesity but because the caps have a faster discharge rate than the average battery or conventional power supply. with suficient pulse climb and timing the need for the caps disappears. another option is to switch the caps out just as fast as the coils are being fired for a recharge if caps are even used.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Russell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-973557</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t believe the 30&#039;s hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t believe the 30&#8217;s hype.</p>
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		<title>By: slik</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-959896</link>
		<dc:creator>slik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>150 rounds per minute most coil guns you have to charge it with capacitors and then fire taking the rate of fire down to about 10 rounds per minute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>150 rounds per minute most coil guns you have to charge it with capacitors and then fire taking the rate of fire down to about 10 rounds per minute</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffery Wright</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-632035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffery Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would look great mounted on my jeep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would look great mounted on my jeep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-460925</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  wheel on the side is probably a commutator spun manually or electricly to energize the coils  sequentially to  accelerate  each projectile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  wheel on the side is probably a commutator spun manually or electricly to energize the coils  sequentially to  accelerate  each projectile.</p>
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		<title>By: avatar28</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/04/17/electric-machine-gun-is-silent/comment-page-1/#comment-131026</link>
		<dc:creator>avatar28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, from the description given, it would be a coil gun, not a rail gun. A coil gun uses a series of electromagnets to propel the projectile down the barrel of the weapon. A rail gun uses a different effect called the Lorentz force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, from the description given, it would be a coil gun, not a rail gun. A coil gun uses a series of electromagnets to propel the projectile down the barrel of the weapon. A rail gun uses a different effect called the Lorentz force.</p>
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