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	<title>Comments on: Kerosene Lamp Powers Radio</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/10/05/kerosene-lamp-powers-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-1074380</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Firebrand38: I&#039;ve seen those for sale on ebay and haven&#039;t gotten around to buying one yet, but I will. I just thought the Russian Lamp would be cool. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Firebrand38: I&#8217;ve seen those for sale on ebay and haven&#8217;t gotten around to buying one yet, but I will. I just thought the Russian Lamp would be cool. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/10/05/kerosene-lamp-powers-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-1074377</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim: If all you want to do is show the Seebeck effect you could just buy one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=120462491639&amp;rvr_id=&amp;crlp=1_263602_263622&amp;UA=WVF%3F&amp;GUID=365aca5f1200a06c21a65706ffe7c486&amp;itemid=120462491639&amp;ff4=263602_263622&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: If all you want to do is show the Seebeck effect you could just buy one of <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=120462491639&amp;rvr_id=&amp;crlp=1_263602_263622&amp;UA=WVF%3F&amp;GUID=365aca5f1200a06c21a65706ffe7c486&amp;itemid=120462491639&amp;ff4=263602_263622" rel="nofollow">these </a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a High School Physics teacher and am looking for one of these Russian Thermoelectric Lamps.

I am asking that the previous poster Joseph, or anyone else, contact me at mos2600@yahoo.com if they can put me in touch with someone who has one they want to donate or sell to me for use at school during physics lab discussion of the Seebeck Effect.

I am an American, but worked in Russia as an interpeter just after college, and can read and speak Russian in the event anyone has any Russian literature on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a High School Physics teacher and am looking for one of these Russian Thermoelectric Lamps.</p>
<p>I am asking that the previous poster Joseph, or anyone else, contact me at <a href="mailto:mos2600@yahoo.com">mos2600@yahoo.com</a> if they can put me in touch with someone who has one they want to donate or sell to me for use at school during physics lab discussion of the Seebeck Effect.</p>
<p>I am an American, but worked in Russia as an interpeter just after college, and can read and speak Russian in the event anyone has any Russian literature on it.</p>
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		<title>By: joseph chambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just purchased a russian kerosene lamp thermoeledtric generator. the unit works very well-it puts out 2,9, 90 volts. iconnected my russian rodina 52 battery powered radio and it plays great with this lamp generator. it lives up to all my expetations. my generator was made in 1958 at the thermoelectricworks plant in moscow,russia. the unit came from lithuania and the person i bought it from said that it was the first on he had seen in 20 years and are very rare. the unit can also be used on american battery radios that require 90 and 1.5 volts. i think all radio collectors that are diverside should have one of these very efficient devices in their collection (my spelling is all that good). sincerely, joseph chambers @ the lithia lab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased a russian kerosene lamp thermoeledtric generator. the unit works very well-it puts out 2,9, 90 volts. iconnected my russian rodina 52 battery powered radio and it plays great with this lamp generator. it lives up to all my expetations. my generator was made in 1958 at the thermoelectricworks plant in moscow,russia. the unit came from lithuania and the person i bought it from said that it was the first on he had seen in 20 years and are very rare. the unit can also be used on american battery radios that require 90 and 1.5 volts. i think all radio collectors that are diverside should have one of these very efficient devices in their collection (my spelling is all that good). sincerely, joseph chambers @ the lithia lab.</p>
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		<title>By: German</title>
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		<dc:creator>German</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one of this and is working, i&#039;m from argentina. Somebody know de price of this device?
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one of this and is working, i&#8217;m from argentina. Somebody know de price of this device?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ergosum</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/10/05/kerosene-lamp-powers-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-583018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ergosum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This subject has been much discussed in the Lamp Guild (we&#039;re kerosene lamps fans). You&#039;ll find the main thread here:

http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/AQ0000019.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subject has been much discussed in the Lamp Guild (we&#8217;re kerosene lamps fans). You&#8217;ll find the main thread here:</p>
<p><a href="http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/AQ0000019.htm" rel="nofollow">http://lampguild.org/QandApage.....000019.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: JMyint</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMyint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually TEGs are very efficient.  Devices based on these are still powering the Voyager Spacecraft 30 years after launch. It is expected that both spacecraft will continue to have sufficient electrical power to perform experiments until 2020 though each has had some instruments shut down due to lack of available power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually TEGs are very efficient.  Devices based on these are still powering the Voyager Spacecraft 30 years after launch. It is expected that both spacecraft will continue to have sufficient electrical power to perform experiments until 2020 though each has had some instruments shut down due to lack of available power.</p>
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		<title>By: avatar28</title>
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		<dc:creator>avatar28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it is actually pretty inefficient. Though I do wonder if such a device was ever considered as an alternative or supplement to the alternator in a car. I suppose it wouldn&#039;t work well until the car was warmed up and you would still need the alternator until then to avoid having to run on the battery. But I would think that once the car was warm you could use it to provide power which would decrease the load on the alternator and thus the engine. Then again, the alternator is such a minor load it probably wouldn&#039;t be worth it anyways. A 200 HP engine is roughly, I believe, 160 KW. At maximum most alternators can&#039;t produce more than about 1500 watts (130 amp is about the biggest you will normally see and many are significantly less than that) and that&#039;s not even 1% of the engine&#039;s output. Even at lower throttle levels it still shouldn&#039;t be significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is actually pretty inefficient. Though I do wonder if such a device was ever considered as an alternative or supplement to the alternator in a car. I suppose it wouldn&#8217;t work well until the car was warmed up and you would still need the alternator until then to avoid having to run on the battery. But I would think that once the car was warm you could use it to provide power which would decrease the load on the alternator and thus the engine. Then again, the alternator is such a minor load it probably wouldn&#8217;t be worth it anyways. A 200 HP engine is roughly, I believe, 160 KW. At maximum most alternators can&#8217;t produce more than about 1500 watts (130 amp is about the biggest you will normally see and many are significantly less than that) and that&#8217;s not even 1% of the engine&#8217;s output. Even at lower throttle levels it still shouldn&#8217;t be significant.</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by &quot;excess heat&quot; they mean &quot;to produce the temperature gradient required for the thermo-electric effect&quot;.

I wonder if this was ever used with solar ?

Modern photocells would be more efficient. (I HOPE!)

But.... cost  per watt advantage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by &#8220;excess heat&#8221; they mean &#8220;to produce the temperature gradient required for the thermo-electric effect&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wonder if this was ever used with solar ?</p>
<p>Modern photocells would be more efficient. (I HOPE!)</p>
<p>But&#8230;. cost  per watt advantage?</p>
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