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	<title>Comments on: Yankee Ingenuity Vs. Hitler!</title>
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		<title>By: Emcha</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-931633</link>
		<dc:creator>Emcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I donâ€™t know why you are such a fan of this guy.&quot;

Neither do i. I have never claimed to be his fan. 

&quot;...as reliable as Nostradamus...he was talking about the then next war with Hitler and not when GPS cruise missile technology was developed.&quot;

So it WAS actually pretty prophetic, wasn&#039;t it? Heheh....

&quot;This discussion has pretty much turned pointless...&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t know why you are such a fan of this guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither do i. I have never claimed to be his fan. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;as reliable as Nostradamus&#8230;he was talking about the then next war with Hitler and not when GPS cruise missile technology was developed.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it WAS actually pretty prophetic, wasn&#8217;t it? Heheh&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;This discussion has pretty much turned pointless&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I fully agree with that!</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-930610</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why you are such a fan of this guy.  He&#039;s about as reliable as Nostradamus or Sylvia Brown.

Once again, he was talking about the then next war with Hitler and not when GPS cruise missile technology was developed.

This discussion has pretty much turned pointless so I&#039;ll be moving along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you are such a fan of this guy.  He&#8217;s about as reliable as Nostradamus or Sylvia Brown.</p>
<p>Once again, he was talking about the then next war with Hitler and not when GPS cruise missile technology was developed.</p>
<p>This discussion has pretty much turned pointless so I&#8217;ll be moving along.</p>
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		<title>By: Emcha</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-926973</link>
		<dc:creator>Emcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t even expect this kind of new pioneering technology to make a difference but they had prototypes and/or actually fielded weapons.

GB-4 glide bombs were not much of a success either but they were the way of the future.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app1/gb.html

&quot;...in spite of (and not because of them)â€¦but you knew that.&quot;

Exactly. But my intention was to show that these ideas were not totally hopeless.

&quot;As I said and Iâ€™m sure that you read, since he was writing in 1941 for a 1939-40 Baird aerial TV system Iâ€™d hardly venture to call it â€œhisâ€ idea.&quot;

But i can&#039;t be sure that he was even aware of this early system. And then there was that experimental Blitzkrieg TV...

As you see there were other things similar to what he had considered: Goliaths, Landing Vehicle Tracked and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t even expect this kind of new pioneering technology to make a difference but they had prototypes and/or actually fielded weapons.</p>
<p>GB-4 glide bombs were not much of a success either but they were the way of the future.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app1/gb.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.designation-systems.....p1/gb.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;in spite of (and not because of them)â€¦but you knew that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. But my intention was to show that these ideas were not totally hopeless.</p>
<p>&#8220;As I said and Iâ€™m sure that you read, since he was writing in 1941 for a 1939-40 Baird aerial TV system Iâ€™d hardly venture to call it â€œhisâ€ idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>But i can&#8217;t be sure that he was even aware of this early system. And then there was that experimental Blitzkrieg TV&#8230;</p>
<p>As you see there were other things similar to what he had considered: Goliaths, Landing Vehicle Tracked and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-923924</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And following your TV drone link we find &quot;In retrospect, the Aphrodite concept was a costly failure, and was often more dangerous to the crews which operated the drones than it was to the Germans. It turned out that the hardware available in 1944 was simply not good enough to do the kind of job that was required.&quot;
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b17_14.html

So once again, gadgets were a distraction and we won the war in spite of (and not because of them)...but you knew that.

I&#039;m surprised that he didn&#039;t &quot;predict&quot; Pykrete or the Christie Flying Tank http://www.roadabletimes.com/roadables-modular_Christie.html

&quot;But the technology was there. This goes to show that his ideas werenâ€™t so wrong afteral.&quot; As I said and I&#039;m sure that you read, since he was writing in 1941 for a 1939-40 Baird aerial TV system I&#039;d hardly venture to call it &quot;his&quot; idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And following your TV drone link we find &#8220;In retrospect, the Aphrodite concept was a costly failure, and was often more dangerous to the crews which operated the drones than it was to the Germans. It turned out that the hardware available in 1944 was simply not good enough to do the kind of job that was required.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b17_14.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b17_14.html</a></p>
<p>So once again, gadgets were a distraction and we won the war in spite of (and not because of them)&#8230;but you knew that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that he didn&#8217;t &#8220;predict&#8221; Pykrete or the Christie Flying Tank <a href="http://www.roadabletimes.com/roadables-modular_Christie.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.roadabletimes.com/r.....istie.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;But the technology was there. This goes to show that his ideas werenâ€™t so wrong afteral.&#8221; As I said and I&#8217;m sure that you read, since he was writing in 1941 for a 1939-40 Baird aerial TV system I&#8217;d hardly venture to call it &#8220;his&#8221; idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Emcha</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-921998</link>
		<dc:creator>Emcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This too didnâ€™t get deployed.&quot;

But the technology was there. This goes to show that his ideas weren&#039;t so wrong afteral.

And they even developed AND deployed electro-optical glide bomb in 1944.

http://www.earlytelevision.org/military_tv.html

&quot;Some type of radio controlled, moving land mine...&quot;

NDRC developed some kind of remote-controlled mineroller called Tricycle during the war. Never deployed AFAIK but still interesting device.

&quot;I still say that the good Major still got more wrong than right.&quot;

It would seem that similar ideas got at least some attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This too didnâ€™t get deployed.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the technology was there. This goes to show that his ideas weren&#8217;t so wrong afteral.</p>
<p>And they even developed AND deployed electro-optical glide bomb in 1944.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.earlytelevision.org/military_tv.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlytelevision.org/military_tv.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Some type of radio controlled, moving land mine&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>NDRC developed some kind of remote-controlled mineroller called Tricycle during the war. Never deployed AFAIK but still interesting device.</p>
<p>&#8220;I still say that the good Major still got more wrong than right.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would seem that similar ideas got at least some attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-920599</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The battlefield TV systems may have been built and tested but not deployed to my knowledge.

And &quot;archaic&quot; though they were we still manage to blunder our way to victory without television field maps.

The Baird airplane system of the 1930&#039;s is probably what inspired his &quot;pedictions&quot; in 1941.  This too didn&#039;t get deployed.

I still say that the good Major still got more wrong than right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The battlefield TV systems may have been built and tested but not deployed to my knowledge.</p>
<p>And &#8220;archaic&#8221; though they were we still manage to blunder our way to victory without television field maps.</p>
<p>The Baird airplane system of the 1930&#8217;s is probably what inspired his &#8220;pedictions&#8221; in 1941.  This too didn&#8217;t get deployed.</p>
<p>I still say that the good Major still got more wrong than right.</p>
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		<title>By: Emcha</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-920114</link>
		<dc:creator>Emcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...television field map with observation planes broadcasting the image...&quot;

Systems like this were actually built and tested during the war:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/blitzkrieg_tv.html

http://www.earlytelevision.org/baird_airborne_system.html

Tracked landing barge reminds me of good old LVTs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_Vehicle_Tracked

&quot;...the Fuehrer, who has some little reputation as a wizard of war surprises himself, is going to get the surprise of his life.&quot;

And he certainly was surprised!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;television field map with observation planes broadcasting the image&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Systems like this were actually built and tested during the war:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.earlytelevision.org/blitzkrieg_tv.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlytelevision.org/blitzkrieg_tv.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.earlytelevision.org/baird_airborne_system.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlytelevision.org.....ystem.html</a></p>
<p>Tracked landing barge reminds me of good old LVTs:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_Vehicle_Tracked" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....le_Tracked</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the Fuehrer, who has some little reputation as a wizard of war surprises himself, is going to get the surprise of his life.&#8221;</p>
<p>And he certainly was surprised!</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-911363</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chester, NY, USA


FB38... I haven&#039;t read the article, but I think allocating limited rail resources to the &quot;Final Solution&quot; over the transport of munitions might have shown misplaced priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chester, NY, USA</p>
<p>FB38&#8230; I haven&#8217;t read the article, but I think allocating limited rail resources to the &#8220;Final Solution&#8221; over the transport of munitions might have shown misplaced priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Russell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-909319</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way down south in the land of bumpkins; Statesboro, GA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way down south in the land of bumpkins; Statesboro, GA</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-909090</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennesaw, GA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennesaw, GA</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-909088</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM Blog Con, sounds like fun. Incredibly dorky fun, but fun nonetheless. The only commenter on this blog I&#039;ve actually met is Stannous. Simone and I took an awesome tour he gives of the Haight in SF.

Where do all of you live anyway? I&#039;m in Oceanside, CA. Near San Diego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM Blog Con, sounds like fun. Incredibly dorky fun, but fun nonetheless. The only commenter on this blog I&#8217;ve actually met is Stannous. Simone and I took an awesome tour he gives of the Haight in SF.</p>
<p>Where do all of you live anyway? I&#8217;m in Oceanside, CA. Near San Diego.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-908863</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NR
Done!  Now it&#039;s up to Charlie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR<br />
Done!  Now it&#8217;s up to Charlie!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Russell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-908773</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FB, when you said &quot;Giving a single reason like that for defeat to me is like saying the only reason that the US won is because we issued the M-1 rifle&quot; it gave me a start, and of course I&#039;m not arguing with it. What struck me is that I used to converse with an elderly fellow here in our little town that had been in the German service and on the Russian front and it was his position that one of the determining factors that led to defeat was that they didn&#039;t issue rifles that fired the 8mm Kurz round.

Completely different contexts of course but you never know what will cause a synapse to fire!

And to your list of annoyances add &quot;mano y mano&quot; especially since the person saying it never mean hands!

Oh yeah, and make that gin martini, straight up, extra dry, twist of lemon. 
And I&#039;ll spot the second round</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FB, when you said &#8220;Giving a single reason like that for defeat to me is like saying the only reason that the US won is because we issued the M-1 rifle&#8221; it gave me a start, and of course I&#8217;m not arguing with it. What struck me is that I used to converse with an elderly fellow here in our little town that had been in the German service and on the Russian front and it was his position that one of the determining factors that led to defeat was that they didn&#8217;t issue rifles that fired the 8mm Kurz round.</p>
<p>Completely different contexts of course but you never know what will cause a synapse to fire!</p>
<p>And to your list of annoyances add &#8220;mano y mano&#8221; especially since the person saying it never mean hands!</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and make that gin martini, straight up, extra dry, twist of lemon.<br />
And I&#8217;ll spot the second round</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-908724</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, like that.  But your reference lists horses as one of several logistical failures.  Giving a single reason like that for defeat to me is like saying the only reason that the US won is because we issued the M-1 rifle. It&#039;s more complicated than that.

Keep in mind that article was the opinion of the officer writing it.  Here is an article that blames Nazi ideology http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/fleming.htm and here is a monograph from the Army War College that blames the planning process  http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA436298

The stormbirds link was fascinating, but I saw a comparison with the P-51 and not anything with Rolls-Royce engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like that.  But your reference lists horses as one of several logistical failures.  Giving a single reason like that for defeat to me is like saying the only reason that the US won is because we issued the M-1 rifle. It&#8217;s more complicated than that.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that article was the opinion of the officer writing it.  Here is an article that blames Nazi ideology <a href="http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/fleming.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.loyno.edu/~history/.....leming.htm</a> and here is a monograph from the Army War College that blames the planning process  <a href="http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA436298" rel="nofollow">http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA436298</a></p>
<p>The stormbirds link was fascinating, but I saw a comparison with the P-51 and not anything with Rolls-Royce engines.</p>
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		<title>By: jmyint</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-908628</link>
		<dc:creator>jmyint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.mindef.gov.sg/safti/pointer/back/journals/1998/Vol24_2/4.htm

http://www.stormbirds.com/squadron/common/technical.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mindef.gov.sg/safti/pointer/back/journals/1998/Vol24_2/4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mindef.gov.sg/safti.....24_2/4.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.stormbirds.com/squadron/common/technical.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.stormbirds.com/squa.....hnical.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/13/yankee-ingenuity-vs-hitler/comment-page-1/#comment-908448</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct!  When Charlie holds our first annual MM Bloggers convention I&#039;ll buy you a drink.  The USS Merrimac burned to the waterline and the CSS Virginia was built on it&#039;s corpse. I rank that up theer with &quot;I could care less&quot; and &quot;The proof is in the pudding&quot;, but I digress.

Good point on the cap and ball. His revolver was arguably more famous for using interchangeable parts than for somehow &quot;standardizing&quot; ammo.

And just for due diligence, the German Goliath was of course cable and NOT radio controlled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct!  When Charlie holds our first annual MM Bloggers convention I&#8217;ll buy you a drink.  The USS Merrimac burned to the waterline and the CSS Virginia was built on it&#8217;s corpse. I rank that up theer with &#8220;I could care less&#8221; and &#8220;The proof is in the pudding&#8221;, but I digress.</p>
<p>Good point on the cap and ball. His revolver was arguably more famous for using interchangeable parts than for somehow &#8220;standardizing&#8221; ammo.</p>
<p>And just for due diligence, the German Goliath was of course cable and NOT radio controlled.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FB38, I take it your peeve involves not calling it the &quot;Virginia&quot; :)

I&#039;d take issue with the Colt revolver of 1836, since it was a cap and ball affair it didn&#039;t exactly &quot;standardize&quot; ammunition. The flip down trigger didn&#039;t win a lot of fans either. Now a case could actually be made for the SAA of 1873 but that debate has raged for years.

And other than using manpower rather than some sort of artificial propulsion there was a &quot;successful&quot; (ok, up to the point of sinking!) submarine utilized in warfare by the Confederate Navy when the CSS Hunley sunk the Housatonic in Charleston Harbor. 

Hardly modern, but it did sink a ship. And it&#039;s still around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FB38, I take it your peeve involves not calling it the &#8220;Virginia&#8221; <img src='http://blog.modernmechanix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d take issue with the Colt revolver of 1836, since it was a cap and ball affair it didn&#8217;t exactly &#8220;standardize&#8221; ammunition. The flip down trigger didn&#8217;t win a lot of fans either. Now a case could actually be made for the SAA of 1873 but that debate has raged for years.</p>
<p>And other than using manpower rather than some sort of artificial propulsion there was a &#8220;successful&#8221; (ok, up to the point of sinking!) submarine utilized in warfare by the Confederate Navy when the CSS Hunley sunk the Housatonic in Charleston Harbor. </p>
<p>Hardly modern, but it did sink a ship. And it&#8217;s still around</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it could be argued that there were more causes of the German defeat in Russia than a dependence on horses.  I&#039;d like to see a source or reference for that notion.

Put me in the camp of those who favor the theory that the US exceeded the Axis in plain old manufacturing causing the Germans to run out of anti-tank shells before we ran out of tanks.

Side by side comparisons of jet thrust are hardly to the point as well.  Following that the C-5 Galaxy with 43,000 pounds of thrust per engine would be &quot;superior&quot; to the British Gloster Meteor and The Me262.

I will say that the British Roll&#039;s Royce engines were used in planes that shot down V-1 buzz bombs while the Me262 actually shot down Allied planes. So a lot of it has to do with how you actually use hardware as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it could be argued that there were more causes of the German defeat in Russia than a dependence on horses.  I&#8217;d like to see a source or reference for that notion.</p>
<p>Put me in the camp of those who favor the theory that the US exceeded the Axis in plain old manufacturing causing the Germans to run out of anti-tank shells before we ran out of tanks.</p>
<p>Side by side comparisons of jet thrust are hardly to the point as well.  Following that the C-5 Galaxy with 43,000 pounds of thrust per engine would be &#8220;superior&#8221; to the British Gloster Meteor and The Me262.</p>
<p>I will say that the British Roll&#8217;s Royce engines were used in planes that shot down V-1 buzz bombs while the Me262 actually shot down Allied planes. So a lot of it has to do with how you actually use hardware as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jmyint</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmyint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Allies (notably the US and UK) far exceded the Axis in medical, electronic, material, and manufacturing technology.  The jet engines manufactured by Rolls Royce were far superior to the engines made by the Germans as far as thrust and durability.  

The German military depended upon horses throughout the war and it was this dependence on horses that lost them Russia.

Yes the Japanese did develop a suicide torpedo, the kaiten.  There was only one ship confirmed to have been sunk by kaitens.  The has been speculation that the USS Indianapolis was also sunk by kaitens though the captain of the submarine that did it denied it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Allies (notably the US and UK) far exceded the Axis in medical, electronic, material, and manufacturing technology.  The jet engines manufactured by Rolls Royce were far superior to the engines made by the Germans as far as thrust and durability.  </p>
<p>The German military depended upon horses throughout the war and it was this dependence on horses that lost them Russia.</p>
<p>Yes the Japanese did develop a suicide torpedo, the kaiten.  There was only one ship confirmed to have been sunk by kaitens.  The has been speculation that the USS Indianapolis was also sunk by kaitens though the captain of the submarine that did it denied it.</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?
No props for the radar steered anti-aircraft gun?
Didn&#039;t the Japanese have a Kamakize torpedo?
(I know a radio commentator of the era &lt;i&gt;said&lt;/i&gt; they did.)
(and I saw it in a Republic serial.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?<br />
No props for the radar steered anti-aircraft gun?<br />
Didn&#8217;t the Japanese have a Kamakize torpedo?<br />
(I know a radio commentator of the era <i>said</i> they did.)<br />
(and I saw it in a Republic serial.)</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, the &quot;radio controlled, moving land mine&quot; was developed by the Germans after a French example was captured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine

He also perpetuates one of my pet peeves; that whole &quot;Monitor versus Merrimac&quot; nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, the &#8220;radio controlled, moving land mine&#8221; was developed by the Germans after a French example was captured <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine</a></p>
<p>He also perpetuates one of my pet peeves; that whole &#8220;Monitor versus Merrimac&#8221; nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s all baloney.  But think of it as a pep talk at a time when the U.S. needed one.

I loved the phrase &quot; America plows the earth, minding its own business, until the Redskins shoot their arrows out of the woods, and America then seizes its musket and fights exactly as hard as she works!&quot;.  Apparently he didn&#039;t consider Indians as American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s all baloney.  But think of it as a pep talk at a time when the U.S. needed one.</p>
<p>I loved the phrase &#8221; America plows the earth, minding its own business, until the Redskins shoot their arrows out of the woods, and America then seizes its musket and fights exactly as hard as she works!&#8221;.  Apparently he didn&#8217;t consider Indians as American.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how he got just about everything wrong.  Postwar the United States was knocking itself out trying to adopt German ingenuity.

As a former paratrooper the &quot;bat-man suits&quot; really cracks me up.  Although they foreshadow today&#039;s squirrel suits  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttz5oPpF1Js I can&#039;t even imagine the chaos of even a rifle company of soldiers &quot;flying&quot; over a drop zone.

This is the guy who in 1922 wrote a book defending the viability of horse cavalry.  For the interested it&#039;s available online at google books http://books.google.com/books?id=amcDAAAAYAAJ&amp;dq=%22Malcolm+Wheeler-Nicholson%22&amp;as_brr=1

After his service he started a company that eventually became DC Comics (home of Superman and Batman) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Wheeler-Nicholson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how he got just about everything wrong.  Postwar the United States was knocking itself out trying to adopt German ingenuity.</p>
<p>As a former paratrooper the &#8220;bat-man suits&#8221; really cracks me up.  Although they foreshadow today&#8217;s squirrel suits  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttz5oPpF1Js" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttz5oPpF1Js</a> I can&#8217;t even imagine the chaos of even a rifle company of soldiers &#8220;flying&#8221; over a drop zone.</p>
<p>This is the guy who in 1922 wrote a book defending the viability of horse cavalry.  For the interested it&#8217;s available online at google books <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=amcDAAAAYAAJ&amp;dq=%22Malcolm+Wheeler-Nicholson%22&amp;as_brr=1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?.....p;as_brr=1</a></p>
<p>After his service he started a company that eventually became DC Comics (home of Superman and Batman) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Wheeler-Nicholson" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....-Nicholson</a></p>
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