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	<title>Comments on: MERRY-GO-ROUND LAUNCHES AIRPLANE</title>
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	<description>Yesterday's tomorrow, today.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jaber L</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaber L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from the speculation as to the feasibility of this launching method,  don't you think the pilot would simply barf after 3 or 4 spins on this thing?  

I'm getting the hurlies just thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the speculation as to the feasibility of this launching method,  don&#8217;t you think the pilot would simply barf after 3 or 4 spins on this thing?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting the hurlies just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045714</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the point, indeed.

Small planes such as those shown can take off from a short grass strip.  And as a bonus, the same grass strip can also be used for landing!  Contrast the cost of clearing a strip of grass and keeping it mowed with the cost of building, maintaining, and powering a tower and swivel mechanism, plus a hoist mechanism.  Then add the cost of building a landing strip, because you'll need it anyway.  Now figure the issues of pilot training, safety (what if the cable breaks before you've got speed?), performance in wind, susceptibility to wind damage during storms, etc. and it's not hard to see why this idea never took off.

It's a classic non-solution to a non-problem.  The only problem it solves is the need for takeoff runway, but since you still need a landing runway, it doesn't really solve that very well.  Granted, many planes can land in slightly less space than the require to safely take off, so it's not totally useless, but it's not worth all the other problems it introduces that are worse than the problem it tries to solve.

My guess is the inventor hadn't logged much time as a pilot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the point, indeed.</p>
<p>Small planes such as those shown can take off from a short grass strip.  And as a bonus, the same grass strip can also be used for landing!  Contrast the cost of clearing a strip of grass and keeping it mowed with the cost of building, maintaining, and powering a tower and swivel mechanism, plus a hoist mechanism.  Then add the cost of building a landing strip, because you&#8217;ll need it anyway.  Now figure the issues of pilot training, safety (what if the cable breaks before you&#8217;ve got speed?), performance in wind, susceptibility to wind damage during storms, etc. and it&#8217;s not hard to see why this idea never took off.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a classic non-solution to a non-problem.  The only problem it solves is the need for takeoff runway, but since you still need a landing runway, it doesn&#8217;t really solve that very well.  Granted, many planes can land in slightly less space than the require to safely take off, so it&#8217;s not totally useless, but it&#8217;s not worth all the other problems it introduces that are worse than the problem it tries to solve.</p>
<p>My guess is the inventor hadn&#8217;t logged much time as a pilot.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045709</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to Matt.
How did he get the plane back to the post?

Was he winched up and then brought to speed by the tower or did he fly under his own power?

What about headwinds?

This could work for small planes (with some huge potential danger) but what is the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to Matt.<br />
How did he get the plane back to the post?</p>
<p>Was he winched up and then brought to speed by the tower or did he fly under his own power?</p>
<p>What about headwinds?</p>
<p>This could work for small planes (with some huge potential danger) but what is the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Sparks</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045698</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody did this with a piper cub, a large post set in the ground and a cable to the right wingtip.
It worked fine for taking off.
He didnt have a similar method for landing.
No reason this couldnt work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody did this with a piper cub, a large post set in the ground and a cable to the right wingtip.<br />
It worked fine for taking off.<br />
He didnt have a similar method for landing.<br />
No reason this couldnt work.</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045677</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For landing, think  of  an aircraft carrier's  arresting cable system upside down.
The tower rotates with the cable length set to 5 times the tower height.
The pilot raises a hook above  his plane and intersects the bottom of the hoop.
The cable with plane is reeled in as the tower slows to a stop with the plane at ground  level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For landing, think  of  an aircraft carrier&#8217;s  arresting cable system upside down.<br />
The tower rotates with the cable length set to 5 times the tower height.<br />
The pilot raises a hook above  his plane and intersects the bottom of the hoop.<br />
The cable with plane is reeled in as the tower slows to a stop with the plane at ground  level.</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045675</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn't it have to be tied by  the left wing so it's going forward  when released?

Or instead a swiveling hitch that is at  the top of the plane before takeoff and at the left  side of the plane at release?

Could  more rope be played out as it's speeding up to reduce the G forces?

(Strike comment #6.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have to be tied by  the left wing so it&#8217;s going forward  when released?</p>
<p>Or instead a swiveling hitch that is at  the top of the plane before takeoff and at the left  side of the plane at release?</p>
<p>Could  more rope be played out as it&#8217;s speeding up to reduce the G forces?</p>
<p>(Strike comment #6.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Auricchio</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045672</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Auricchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the plane attains flying speed, its lift will tend to pull it toward the center of the circle. So then the pilot releases and immediately levels the wings to fly away?

Pretty good, considering he may be in at least a 60-degree bank at that point. Two problems with that. First, a 60-degree bank is a 2G turn; not fun for long. Second, as the plane banks around the pylon, it loses lift due to the turn. To get well above stall speed, the plane would have to fly much faster than normal takeoff speed.

And never mind the time to hook up and lift the perfectly-balanced plane...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the plane attains flying speed, its lift will tend to pull it toward the center of the circle. So then the pilot releases and immediately levels the wings to fly away?</p>
<p>Pretty good, considering he may be in at least a 60-degree bank at that point. Two problems with that. First, a 60-degree bank is a 2G turn; not fun for long. Second, as the plane banks around the pylon, it loses lift due to the turn. To get well above stall speed, the plane would have to fly much faster than normal takeoff speed.</p>
<p>And never mind the time to hook up and lift the perfectly-balanced plane&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stannous</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045666</link>
		<dc:creator>Stannous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait til you see the one they're building for the Boeing 767.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait til you see the one they&#8217;re building for the Boeing 767.</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045647</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn't it have to swing the plane by the tail so that it's going forward when released?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have to swing the plane by the tail so that it&#8217;s going forward when released?</p>
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		<title>By: scuba_sm</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045624</link>
		<dc:creator>scuba_sm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if you fast forward a few years, it sounds like this would be the perfect land-based platform for the Goblin Fighter.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if you fast forward a few years, it sounds like this would be the perfect land-based platform for the Goblin Fighter&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045615</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would also take a precisely balanced plane to sit level while hanging from a hook :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would also take a precisely balanced plane to sit level while hanging from a hook <img src='http://blog.modernmechanix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045614</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, I see in the picture that there is no runway for landing.  How do the planes get to the whilagig?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I see in the picture that there is no runway for landing.  How do the planes get to the whilagig?</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045609</link>
		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landing could be a bit tricky too.</description>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/02/04/merry-go-round-launches-airplane/#comment-1045607</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, how many of these made it into production?  Small airplanes become airborne within a couple hundred feet.  What would be the point of whirling them in the air?  They would need new reinforcements to stand the strain.  How fun would it be to release while at a 45 degree angle into a heading you could only guess at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, how many of these made it into production?  Small airplanes become airborne within a couple hundred feet.  What would be the point of whirling them in the air?  They would need new reinforcements to stand the strain.  How fun would it be to release while at a 45 degree angle into a heading you could only guess at?</p>
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