Comments on: THE NATIONAL DATA CENTER AND PERSONAL PRIVACY http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/ Yesterday's tomorrow, today. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:00:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Marc http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1058593 Marc Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:06 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1058593 zippyspincycle, Toronto: Here's apparently a copy of "Boby & Ray's take on it": http://limulus.net/blog/eric/2005/05/12/the_day_the_computers_got_walden_ashenfe_1 (otherwise try searching for the title "The day the computers got Waldon Ashenfelter") zippyspincycle, Toronto: Here’s apparently a copy of “Boby & Ray’s take on it”:

http://limulus.net/blog/eric/2....._ashenfe_1

(otherwise try searching for the title “The day the computers got Waldon Ashenfelter”)

]]> By: Mike http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1058054 Mike Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:21:09 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1058054 Our cell phones, ez-pass and other devices, track where we are, every email and comment is saved, our credit card purchases are tracked, our grocery stores keep track of how much milk we buy, but I wouldn't worry too much. I mean they are doing it for our own good... right? Our cell phones, ez-pass and other devices, track where we are, every email and comment is saved, our credit card purchases are tracked, our grocery stores keep track of how much milk we buy, but I wouldn’t worry too much. I mean they are doing it for our own good… right?

]]> By: Hello World http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1054443 Hello World Wed, 07 May 2008 04:28:17 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1054443 nice post my main hombre man supreme pimp ya nice post my main hombre man supreme pimp ya

]]> By: Barbara R http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1053139 Barbara R Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:39:39 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1053139 There was a series of Reith Lectures on the BBC years ago, which focussed on the proliferation of data, both "good" and "bad" and it's propensity to clog everything up, since the "bad" data was indestinguishable from the "good" many times. The arguement, put crudely, was that in an oral society ideas that proved useless tended to get forgotten and good ideas were passed around, providing an evolution of ideas. Once information was permanently recorded the rubbish would mount up and be almost impossible to get rid of. Just check out the Internet to verify this. I used to wory a lot about this, but you know what? Human ingenuity usually prevails and good ideas are still passed around, albeit often informally. Just make sure your friends are not too gullible and exchange information with them freely and it will probably all work out ok. There was a series of Reith Lectures on the BBC years ago, which focussed on the proliferation of data, both “good” and “bad” and it’s propensity to clog everything up, since the “bad” data was indestinguishable from the “good” many times. The arguement, put crudely, was that in an oral society ideas that proved useless tended to get forgotten and good ideas were passed around, providing an evolution of ideas. Once information was permanently recorded the rubbish would mount up and be almost impossible to get rid of. Just check out the Internet to verify this.
I used to wory a lot about this, but you know what? Human ingenuity usually prevails and good ideas are still passed around, albeit often informally. Just make sure your friends are not too gullible and exchange information with them freely and it will probably all work out ok.

]]> By: /pd http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1052503 /pd Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:41:02 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1052503 This one brillent find .. thank you for sharing !! This one brillent find .. thank you for sharing !!

]]> By: Toronto http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1052363 Toronto Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:55:12 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1052363 So, can we get a link to the Bob and Ray article, too? So, can we get a link to the Bob and Ray article, too?

]]> By: Warren http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051727 Warren Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:08:11 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051727 Cassandra. Very good allegory :) Thanks! Cassandra. Very good allegory :) Thanks!

]]> By: Albatross http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051725 Albatross Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:41:08 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051725 "Arthur Miller" is apparently a pseudonym for Cassandra ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra ) “Arthur Miller” is apparently a pseudonym for Cassandra ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra )

]]> By: Benzene http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051429 Benzene Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:55:47 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051429 The best part of this article is that he correctly assumes that people don't change along with the technology. Every other "inventions of tomorrow" article seems to think we'll all melt down our guns to make computer chips and flying cars and start an automated utopia. Miller realizes that people will continue to be jerks and correctly assumes that a national network might require regulation and security. ARPAnet was built just a couple years after he wrote this. In a way, he got this in just in time. The best part of this article is that he correctly assumes that people don’t change along with the technology. Every other “inventions of tomorrow” article seems to think we’ll all melt down our guns to make computer chips and flying cars and start an automated utopia. Miller realizes that people will continue to be jerks and correctly assumes that a national network might require regulation and security.

ARPAnet was built just a couple years after he wrote this. In a way, he got this in just in time.

]]> By: Warren Keiner http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051421 Warren Keiner Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:19:17 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051421 Coincidentally, the other Arthur Miller, the author of the Crucible, also has important roots to The University of Michigan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Miller Coincidentally, the other Arthur Miller, the author of the Crucible, also has important roots
to The University of Michigan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Miller

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051417 Charlie Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:55:38 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051417 Tim » You're not paranoid if they really are out to get you. Tim » You’re not paranoid if they really are out to get you.

]]> By: Tim http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051411 Tim Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:57:13 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051411 Taking distrust and paranoia to unprecedented levels in 1967. Nice. Taking distrust and paranoia to unprecedented levels in 1967. Nice.

]]> By: nlpnt http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051353 nlpnt Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:20:19 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051353 Scary. Perhaps the biggest change is that day-to-day exposure to PCs has givien a well-deserved beating to the notion of The Computer as omniscient and infallible! I had seen on "Countdown" just this night that the government has been giving credit bureaus access to the terror watch list... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23908452#23908452 Scary.
Perhaps the biggest change is that day-to-day exposure to PCs has givien a well-deserved beating to the notion of The Computer as omniscient and infallible!
I had seen on “Countdown” just this night that the government has been giving credit bureaus access to the terror watch list…

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21.....2#23908452

]]> By: spootmonkey http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051347 spootmonkey Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:33:56 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051347 Great find and a amzing article... Could I repost it with link on you? Great find and a amzing article… Could I repost it with link on you?

]]> By: RB http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051344 RB Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:14:37 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051344 Amazing article that gets one thing wrong - the danger is even greater than Miller predicted. Amazing article that gets one thing wrong – the danger is even greater than Miller predicted.

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051343 Charlie Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:57:11 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051343 zippy: Just haven't gotten to it, I will soon. zippy: Just haven’t gotten to it, I will soon.

]]> By: Filepromptdotcom http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051342 Filepromptdotcom Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:53:26 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051342 Nice piece of history, and still true http://www.fileprompt.com Nice piece of history, and still true

http://www.fileprompt.com

]]> By: zippyspincycle http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051339 zippyspincycle Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:31:59 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051339 Terrific find--will share this with my students. But why, oh why, did you not include Bob & Ray's take on the topic (p 58 of that issue)? (OK, fair use and all that...) Terrific find–will share this with my students. But why, oh why, did you not include Bob & Ray’s take on the topic (p 58 of that issue)? (OK, fair use and all that…)

]]> By: Not telling http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051333 Not telling Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:46:44 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051333 Great read. Still very much applicable today. Great read. Still very much applicable today.

]]> By: Dane http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051332 Dane Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:44:48 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051332 OOPS! This isn't Arthur (A.) Miller the famous author -- this Arthur R. Miller is a legal guru. Notice how the cover has "lawyer's critique." Either way, it's a fantastic find!! OOPS! This isn’t Arthur (A.) Miller the famous author — this Arthur R. Miller is a legal guru. Notice how the cover has “lawyer’s critique.” Either way, it’s a fantastic find!!

]]> By: Ordinary Guy http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1051324 Ordinary Guy Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:51:40 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/31/the-national-data-center-and-personal-privacy/#comment-1051324 This is an amazing find and a great article. I place a blog post on my blog pointing back here. I recently wrote an article about PCI and RFID tag tracking on my blog (http://ramblingordinaryguy.blogspot.com/2008/03/credit-and-debit-card-security.html) and find our failure to pay attention to this prediction 41 years later both frightening and amusing at the same time. A great article. This is an amazing find and a great article. I place a blog post on my blog pointing back here. I recently wrote an article about PCI and RFID tag tracking on my blog (http://ramblingordinaryguy.blo.....urity.html) and find our failure to pay attention to this prediction 41 years later both frightening and amusing at the same time.

A great article.

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