Comments on: NEW ELEVATOR WORKS WITHOUT CABLES http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/ Yesterday's tomorrow, today. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:15:36 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Akinato http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1064004 Akinato Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:30:54 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1064004 Akinato again. I am rather curious. Upon searching the web, I have not been able to come across any "wall trolley" fan groups or clubs. Do such really exist? If there is somewhere on this planet an elevator and escalator fan group, PLEASE let me know! (Otherwise, I will have to try and start one myself)! Akinato again. I am rather curious. Upon searching the web, I have not been able to come across any “wall trolley” fan groups or clubs. Do such really exist? If there is somewhere on this planet an elevator and escalator fan group, PLEASE let me know! (Otherwise, I will have to try and start one myself)!

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1064003 Charlie Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:28:14 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1064003 Funny, I almost rented an apartment in the El Cortez when I moved to SD. Funny, I almost rented an apartment in the El Cortez when I moved to SD.

]]> By: Akinato http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1064002 Akinato Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:22:37 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1064002 As a "Wall Trolley" fan myself, I am interested in the unusual lifts. (Not the hum-drumm ordinary boring enclosed boxes that most indeed are -- probably mainly due to financial restrictions). I am into the unusual, the highest, clear glass lifts, open cage lifts (what are indeed left), also ones that travel off of the strictly vertical plane, etc. Now, I would like to know as I am Japanese/Swiss, we in Switzerland have some of these Pasternoster lifts. (There is one on Gerichtigkeitsgasse in Bern for sure). In America and in Japan, are there any Pasternosterlifts that are currently PUBLICLY accessable? Other news, the first outdoor observation lift in America (1956 - 1986) the "Starlight Express" also in its 3 decades of operation was the highest ram type lift on the planet (50+-m height)! It was the only lift that I know of that had a ram the diametre of 30.5cm)! That was at the (now former) El Cortez Hotel in San Diego, CA. The building went under "restoration" to its 1927 past and as it is now part of a condominia complex, the lift has been completely taken out! Shame! (That should have remained and registered as a national historic landmark! But too late now! Thanks! As a “Wall Trolley” fan myself, I am interested in the unusual lifts. (Not the hum-drumm ordinary boring enclosed boxes that most indeed are — probably mainly due to financial restrictions). I am into the unusual, the highest, clear glass lifts, open cage lifts (what are indeed left), also ones that travel off of the strictly vertical plane, etc.

Now, I would like to know as I am Japanese/Swiss, we in Switzerland have some of these Pasternoster lifts. (There is one on Gerichtigkeitsgasse in Bern for sure). In America and in Japan, are there any Pasternosterlifts that are currently PUBLICLY accessable?

Other news, the first outdoor observation lift in America (1956 – 1986) the “Starlight Express” also in its 3 decades of operation was the highest ram type lift on the planet (50+-m height)! It was the only lift that I know of that had a ram the diametre of 30.5cm)! That was at the (now former) El Cortez Hotel in San Diego, CA. The building went under “restoration” to its 1927 past and as it is now part of a condominia complex, the lift has been completely taken out! Shame! (That should have remained and registered as a national historic landmark! But too late now! Thanks!

]]> By: Peter http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053911 Peter Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:31:52 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053911 There is one of these installed in the New York Hall of Science, in the part of the building that dates from the World's Fair. When I worked there a few years ago employees would avoid it like the plague as you were more likely to get stuck then to make it your destination. There is one of these installed in the New York Hall of Science, in the part of the building that dates from the World’s Fair. When I worked there a few years ago employees would avoid it like the plague as you were more likely to get stuck then to make it your destination.

]]> By: Rick Auricchio http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053286 Rick Auricchio Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:18:14 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053286 A paternoster is a two-shaft elevator. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster A paternoster is a two-shaft elevator. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster

]]> By: Charlie http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053257 Charlie Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:55:00 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053257 I know that Otis had designed a vertical/horizontal elevator called the Odyssey during the 90's. Not sure what happened with it. I know that Otis had designed a vertical/horizontal elevator called the Odyssey during the 90’s. Not sure what happened with it.

]]> By: Thundercat http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053255 Thundercat Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:52:42 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053255 I'm not sure if these count, but the elevator that goes up the Eiffel tower, the one that goes up the St. Louis Arch, and the elevators at the Luxor in Las Vegas all move horizontally as well as they move up and down. I’m not sure if these count, but the elevator that goes up the Eiffel tower, the one that goes up the St. Louis Arch, and the elevators at the Luxor in Las Vegas all move horizontally as well as they move up and down.

]]> By: jayessell http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053249 jayessell Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:15:46 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053249 Interesting idea. The elevator shaft doesn't have to be vertical and doesn't have to be in the center of the building. Are there any two axis elevators, real or proposed? Interesting idea.
The elevator shaft doesn’t have to be vertical and
doesn’t have to be in the center of the building.

Are there any two axis elevators, real or proposed?

]]> By: Myles http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053246 Myles Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:54:49 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053246 Oh - I see, never mind :) This system would probably take way to much energy as there does not seem to be a counterweight. Oh – I see, never mind :) This system would probably take way to much energy as there does not seem to be a counterweight.

]]> By: Myles http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053244 Myles Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:52:08 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053244 It is a clever idea for a propulsion system. It would depend on how much power it uses compared to other systems. I do not get how adding more than one car to the same shaft could ever work - the two cars would need to be able to pass each other. It is a clever idea for a propulsion system. It would depend on how much power it uses compared to other systems. I do not get how adding more than one car to the same shaft could ever work – the two cars would need to be able to pass each other.

]]> By: Benzene http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/comment-page-1/#comment-1053239 Benzene Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:31 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/04/16/new-elevator-works-without-cables/#comment-1053239 Wouldn't it be easier to just reverse the direction the drum turns when it needs to go down? You'd be able to reuse the old cable-driven elevator shafts, at least. Wouldn’t it be easier to just reverse the direction the drum turns when it needs to go down? You’d be able to reuse the old cable-driven elevator shafts, at least.

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