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		<title>By: Germaniac</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054801</link>
		<dc:creator>Germaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D'OH</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054775</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germaniac: Thanks for writing such a thoughtful, detailed response. I love it when new users get involved. Please don't take this as being in anyway a criticism, but did you realize that this article was published over 50 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germaniac: Thanks for writing such a thoughtful, detailed response. I love it when new users get involved. Please don&#8217;t take this as being in anyway a criticism, but did you realize that this article was published over 50 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Germaniac</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054773</link>
		<dc:creator>Germaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on, back up. 

So according to this article, the difference between Interlingua and every other attempt at making a new international language is that the aforementioned is natural, thus alive, and therefore superior. A nice claim, but as Brian Barker pointed out, Esperanto has achieved the same status. Furthermore,  Interlingua is no less stagnant than Spanish, French, Italtian, Portuguese or Romanian, and to compile a new language dispite already existant exemplars purely for political reasons is superfluous. 

Creating another offspring of Latin is not going to save the world. JMyint is right - it cannot be said enough that Latin words alone are insufficient for a language which everyone could understand at first glance. It doesn’t matter how much of the world’s languages are romance or indo-european, or how much of the earth’s population speaks chinese; constructing a plenary conjunction of all (or even only a majority of) human languages is a futile cause. Or perhaps I am just too pessimistic. There is much to debate on this, and not much time. In any case, please allow me to correct the research. 

8.1. Quote: “German is thorough, precise—but sounds hideous.”
I understand the point, but isn’t ‘hideous’ … kind of …cruel? 
Let me defend: High German has an immense variety of sounds. Some claim it sounds like one is “coughing up phlegm” —but actually this gutteral ‘ch sound’, the velar fricative [x], occurs infrequently in German and much more often in for example Dutch (which with the language is often confused), Hebrew or Arabic. The ‘ch’ in German is more often pronounced as the soft palatal fricative [ç]. Contrary to popular belief, ‘Alleman’ can actually be quite soft and melodic.

In any case: however a language might like to sound to anyone, it is commonly kind to pay attention to accuracy. Gesundheit, German for ‘health’, is spelled with an h. 
(Quote: “outside of gesundeit”)

8.2. Quote: “The special “th” sound, which occurs tongue-twistingly in English only…”
‘th’ to mean the dental fricative [θ] is used not only in English, but among others also in Icelandic, Welsh, Albanian and Greek.

Oh, and speaking of hiring an expensive staff of translators, are you trying to put us out of work? And what about all of those poor students studying culture? How will their futures look when all language and culture identity has been cohered to some latin mish-mosh and the anthropologists just stand around shrugging their shoulders? And how do you think Ivan the heavyweight Russian boxer will feel when you tell him his impressively aggressive speech will have to be re-written with playful, colorful latino lingua? And how do you tell Aaron who just wrote his heart-wrenching story of a life in opression in his expressive hebrew that he must now write something that sounds like a vatican serman? 

And since that is all obviously rubbish, can we all please stop inventing new versions of latin, and just let people have their own cultures, because a multifarious world is a beautiful thing?

Oh, and please, can we leave German alone? It has the most precise grammar in the whole world, and once you’ve achieved THAT, it doesn’t even matter how it sounds anymore. But really, it’s beautiful. And this article is biased and I am a freak and tired of writing.  So Cheerio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on, back up. </p>
<p>So according to this article, the difference between Interlingua and every other attempt at making a new international language is that the aforementioned is natural, thus alive, and therefore superior. A nice claim, but as Brian Barker pointed out, Esperanto has achieved the same status. Furthermore,  Interlingua is no less stagnant than Spanish, French, Italtian, Portuguese or Romanian, and to compile a new language dispite already existant exemplars purely for political reasons is superfluous. </p>
<p>Creating another offspring of Latin is not going to save the world. JMyint is right - it cannot be said enough that Latin words alone are insufficient for a language which everyone could understand at first glance. It doesn’t matter how much of the world’s languages are romance or indo-european, or how much of the earth’s population speaks chinese; constructing a plenary conjunction of all (or even only a majority of) human languages is a futile cause. Or perhaps I am just too pessimistic. There is much to debate on this, and not much time. In any case, please allow me to correct the research. </p>
<p>8.1. Quote: “German is thorough, precise—but sounds hideous.”<br />
I understand the point, but isn’t ‘hideous’ … kind of …cruel?<br />
Let me defend: High German has an immense variety of sounds. Some claim it sounds like one is “coughing up phlegm” —but actually this gutteral ‘ch sound’, the velar fricative [x], occurs infrequently in German and much more often in for example Dutch (which with the language is often confused), Hebrew or Arabic. The ‘ch’ in German is more often pronounced as the soft palatal fricative [ç]. Contrary to popular belief, ‘Alleman’ can actually be quite soft and melodic.</p>
<p>In any case: however a language might like to sound to anyone, it is commonly kind to pay attention to accuracy. Gesundheit, German for ‘health’, is spelled with an h.<br />
(Quote: “outside of gesundeit”)</p>
<p>8.2. Quote: “The special “th” sound, which occurs tongue-twistingly in English only…”<br />
‘th’ to mean the dental fricative [θ] is used not only in English, but among others also in Icelandic, Welsh, Albanian and Greek.</p>
<p>Oh, and speaking of hiring an expensive staff of translators, are you trying to put us out of work? And what about all of those poor students studying culture? How will their futures look when all language and culture identity has been cohered to some latin mish-mosh and the anthropologists just stand around shrugging their shoulders? And how do you think Ivan the heavyweight Russian boxer will feel when you tell him his impressively aggressive speech will have to be re-written with playful, colorful latino lingua? And how do you tell Aaron who just wrote his heart-wrenching story of a life in opression in his expressive hebrew that he must now write something that sounds like a vatican serman? </p>
<p>And since that is all obviously rubbish, can we all please stop inventing new versions of latin, and just let people have their own cultures, because a multifarious world is a beautiful thing?</p>
<p>Oh, and please, can we leave German alone? It has the most precise grammar in the whole world, and once you’ve achieved THAT, it doesn’t even matter how it sounds anymore. But really, it’s beautiful. And this article is biased and I am a freak and tired of writing.  So Cheerio.</p>
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		<title>By: JMyint</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054679</link>
		<dc:creator>JMyint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with these created languages is their dependence on romance language conventions.  The strict structures of these languages make them clumsy for non-europeans to learn.</description>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054643</link>
		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the uninitiated, Harry is referring to the 1965 movie "Incubus" featuring dialogue in Esperanto
and currently available on DVD.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059311</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the uninitiated, Harry is referring to the 1965 movie &#8220;Incubus&#8221; featuring dialogue in Esperanto<br />
and currently available on DVD.  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059311" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059311</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they need is a movie in Interlingua, starring William Shatner perhaps?</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Barker</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054612</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The founder of Interlingua intended that this "language" be written, not spoken.
So how would that work, as an intermediary language at the United Nations for example?
LOL big time.
Eight British MP's have nominated Esperanto for the Nobel Peace Prize 2008.
How's that for seriousness?
If you want to see Esperanto as a living language, don't let bias get in your way.
Please check http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The founder of Interlingua intended that this &#8220;language&#8221; be written, not spoken.<br />
So how would that work, as an intermediary language at the United Nations for example?<br />
LOL big time.<br />
Eight British MP&#8217;s have nominated Esperanto for the Nobel Peace Prize 2008.<br />
How&#8217;s that for seriousness?<br />
If you want to see Esperanto as a living language, don&#8217;t let bias get in your way.<br />
Please check <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videop.....8991452670</a></p>
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		<title>By: StanFlouride</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054604</link>
		<dc:creator>StanFlouride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ Charlie, I'll bet it did!</description>
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		<title>By: Klopfer</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/08/will-interlingua-smash-the-language-barrier/#comment-1054570</link>
		<dc:creator>Klopfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"All the Romance and Teutonic languages of Europe today stem from a previous mother tongue—Latin." Just wrong, Germanic languages come from a common predecessor of Latin. I thought that this was already known in 1955.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All the Romance and Teutonic languages of Europe today stem from a previous mother tongue—Latin.&#8221; Just wrong, Germanic languages come from a common predecessor of Latin. I thought that this was already known in 1955.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 06:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting article. Interlingua has been almost entirely displaced by its predecessor Esperanto as the international language.

It is a planned language which belongs to no one country or group of states. Take a look at www.esperanto.net
Take away the question mark. Esperanto works! I've used it in speech and writing in a dozen countries over recent years.

Indeed, the language has some remarkable practical benefits. Personally, I've made friends around the world through Esperanto that I would never have been able to communicate with otherwise. And then there's the Pasporta Servo , which provides free lodging and local information to Esperanto-speaking travellers in over 90 countries. In the past tear I have had guided tours of Berlin and Milan in the planned language. I have discussed philosophy with a Slovene poet, humour on television with a Bulgarian TV producer. I've discussed what life was like in East Berlin before the wall came down, how to cook perfect spaghetti, the advantages and disadvantages of monarchy, and so on. I recommend it, not just as an ideal but as a very practical way to overcome language barriers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting article. Interlingua has been almost entirely displaced by its predecessor Esperanto as the international language.</p>
<p>It is a planned language which belongs to no one country or group of states. Take a look at <a href="http://www.esperanto.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.esperanto.net</a><br />
Take away the question mark. Esperanto works! I&#8217;ve used it in speech and writing in a dozen countries over recent years.</p>
<p>Indeed, the language has some remarkable practical benefits. Personally, I&#8217;ve made friends around the world through Esperanto that I would never have been able to communicate with otherwise. And then there&#8217;s the Pasporta Servo , which provides free lodging and local information to Esperanto-speaking travellers in over 90 countries. In the past tear I have had guided tours of Berlin and Milan in the planned language. I have discussed philosophy with a Slovene poet, humour on television with a Bulgarian TV producer. I&#8217;ve discussed what life was like in East Berlin before the wall came down, how to cook perfect spaghetti, the advantages and disadvantages of monarchy, and so on. I recommend it, not just as an ideal but as a very practical way to overcome language barriers.</p>
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