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	<title>Comments on: Why Don&#8217;t We Have&#8230; FIRECOPTERS?  (Aug, 1953)</title>
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		<title>By: Al Bear</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/08/25/why-dont-we-have-firecopters/comment-page-1/#comment-1059691</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do&#039;H! you can&#039;t post pictures. I now know!

http://home.att.net/~bugs-bunny/firecopter.JPG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do&#8217;H! you can&#8217;t post pictures. I now know!</p>
<p><a href="http://home.att.net/~bugs-bunny/firecopter.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://home.att.net/~bugs-bunny/firecopter.JPG</a></p>
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		<title>By: Al Bear</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/08/25/why-dont-we-have-firecopters/comment-page-1/#comment-1059690</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An actual real live LAFD FIRECOPTER in action today on TV!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An actual real live LAFD FIRECOPTER in action today on TV!</p>
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		<title>By: Eliyahu</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/08/25/why-dont-we-have-firecopters/comment-page-1/#comment-1059687</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliyahu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear from the article that the author didn&#039;t know much about either helicopters or firefighting.  As a former firefighter, I can say without contradiction that the pressure required to pump water up to a helicopter (above what can already be reached by ladder trucks or hose evolutions up a stairwell using standpipes) would almost certainly exceed the burst strength of any fire hose on the market.   There would also be other issues when you tether a chopper to the ground or to the engine down there that&#039;s pumping the water to it, not to mention the limits of the pumping capacity of a fire engine.  Water is also quite heavy and it takes a lot of it to put out a structure fire.  That&#039;s why large choppers are used for wildfires, but they also just carry a huge bucket and dump it all at once.  They don&#039;t try to pump the water bit by bit.  On top of that, putting a helicopter over the fire would not only fan the flames big-time, but would also create serious ventilation issues for ground-based firefighters as it drove both heat and smoke back down to where they&#039;re trying to work, and puts the chopper up where there&#039;s tremendous heat and turbulence.  It makes for dangerous flying and places everyone at risk, both in the air and on the ground below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear from the article that the author didn&#8217;t know much about either helicopters or firefighting.  As a former firefighter, I can say without contradiction that the pressure required to pump water up to a helicopter (above what can already be reached by ladder trucks or hose evolutions up a stairwell using standpipes) would almost certainly exceed the burst strength of any fire hose on the market.   There would also be other issues when you tether a chopper to the ground or to the engine down there that&#8217;s pumping the water to it, not to mention the limits of the pumping capacity of a fire engine.  Water is also quite heavy and it takes a lot of it to put out a structure fire.  That&#8217;s why large choppers are used for wildfires, but they also just carry a huge bucket and dump it all at once.  They don&#8217;t try to pump the water bit by bit.  On top of that, putting a helicopter over the fire would not only fan the flames big-time, but would also create serious ventilation issues for ground-based firefighters as it drove both heat and smoke back down to where they&#8217;re trying to work, and puts the chopper up where there&#8217;s tremendous heat and turbulence.  It makes for dangerous flying and places everyone at risk, both in the air and on the ground below.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy B.</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/08/25/why-dont-we-have-firecopters/comment-page-1/#comment-1059685</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got fire &#039;copters now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got fire &#8216;copters now</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bear</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/08/25/why-dont-we-have-firecopters/comment-page-1/#comment-1059676</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It answered it&#039;s own question!

Why Don’t We Have… FIRECOPTERS? &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;because it&#039;s&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (Aug, 1953)! that&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It answered it&#8217;s own question!</p>
<p>Why Don’t We Have… FIRECOPTERS? <b><i>because it&#8217;s</i></b> (Aug, 1953)! that&#8217;s why.</p>
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