Comments on: Linemen Train on Grove of Junior Phone Poles (Feb, 1951) http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/ Yesterday's tomorrow, today. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:07:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: tim http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1077448 tim Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:55:53 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1077448 To the all knowing (and the obvious unknowing), I am a CF Lineman, have been for 18 years and served across this country from coast to coast to coast and around the world on 4 different occasions ranging from 5 to 11 month deployments. Fist myth to be squashes after reading above.....All telephony and data circuits located within a CF base are DND owned and maintained be CF Linemen. Second one is that we are in fact highly regarded within the army and on civilian street for our commitment, professionalism and competencies. Where the local telco companies employ specialty workers as either splicers, maintainers, installers or technicians, a CF Lineman has to know all these jobs as well build the pole routes, bury the cable, build and maintain towers and antenna structures, regardless of the threat levels or season, weather or terrain. Anyone care to respond may do so...but please make sure you do your homework first. To the all knowing (and the obvious unknowing), I am a CF Lineman, have been for 18 years and served across this country from coast to coast to coast and around the world on 4 different occasions ranging from 5 to 11 month deployments. Fist myth to be squashes after reading above…..All telephony and data circuits located within a CF base are DND owned and maintained be CF Linemen. Second one is that we are in fact highly regarded within the army and on civilian street for our commitment, professionalism and competencies. Where the local telco companies employ specialty workers as either splicers, maintainers, installers or technicians, a CF Lineman has to know all these jobs as well build the pole routes, bury the cable, build and maintain towers and antenna structures, regardless of the threat levels or season, weather or terrain. Anyone care to respond may do so…but please make sure you do your homework first.

]]> By: Tim Johnson http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1074556 Tim Johnson Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:08:45 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1074556 To all: Having served in both the US Army and Air force in the electronics maintenance field. Over the past 50 or so years much of the services which should be provided by the military personnel have been outsourced to civilian contractors. No one seems to consider that when the military moves out to do the job they joined for, the outsourcing stays at their home base. There is no one trained to do the work in the combat zones. Another political policy of not thinking beyond the payoly point (you don't really thing civilians can do the work better and cheaper than the military personnel, do you?). To all: Having served in both the US Army and Air force in the electronics maintenance field. Over the past 50 or so years much of the services which should be provided by the military personnel have been outsourced to civilian contractors. No one seems to consider that when the military moves out to do the job they joined for, the outsourcing stays at their home base. There is no one trained to do the work in the combat zones. Another political policy of not thinking beyond the payoly point (you don’t really thing civilians can do the work better and cheaper than the military personnel, do you?).

]]> By: Wally http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1064989 Wally Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:00:40 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1064989 John Hanna (First comment)... were you ever at RAF Bentwaters? As far as the "linemen"... this is really pilot training. Their first expierience getting off the ground. Sorry so late... I just saw this. John Hanna (First comment)… were you ever at RAF Bentwaters? As far as the “linemen”…
this is really pilot training. Their first expierience getting off the ground. Sorry so late…
I just saw this.

]]> By: Toronto http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060945 Toronto Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:06:10 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060945 Mike - no, we think highly of our military here in Canada, but we've gone to civilian contractors for a lot of the more mundane tasks (and some technical ones, that I don't agree with) over the years. It started with things like the base maintenance pools - who joins the air force to paint buildings, after all? I also remember living on bases with military telephone systems AND Bell systems intermixed, depending on their use and security requirements. Sadly, now the CAF has subcontracted out things like aircraft maintenance. Then again, I could point to major Canadian (and American) private companies that have "outsourced" things like computer networks that are core to their business, too. And then there's Haliberton and Blackwater and their ilk. It's not 1951 anymore. Mike – no, we think highly of our military here in Canada, but we’ve gone to civilian contractors for a lot of the more mundane tasks (and some technical ones, that I don’t agree with) over the years. It started with things like the base maintenance pools – who joins the air force to paint buildings, after all? I also remember living on bases with military telephone systems AND Bell systems intermixed, depending on their use and security requirements.

Sadly, now the CAF has subcontracted out things like aircraft maintenance. Then again, I could point to major Canadian (and American) private companies that have “outsourced” things like computer networks that are core to their business, too.

And then there’s Haliberton and Blackwater and their ilk.

It’s not 1951 anymore.

]]> By: Steve http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060940 Steve Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:17:15 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060940 Huh, are you sure that's not some Al Queiada training camp? ;) Huh, are you sure that’s not some Al Queiada training camp? ;)

]]> By: Mike http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060938 Mike Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:14:27 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060938 Charlene, I guess Americans think more highly of their military. The photo is from 1951, but don't forget it is a security issue, the military also needs to build out power/communications at various temporary instillations where ever they go. Charlene, I guess Americans think more highly of their military. The photo is from 1951, but don’t forget it is a security issue, the military also needs to build out power/communications at various temporary instillations where ever they go.

]]> By: Charlene http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060935 Charlene Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:59:39 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060935 Or doing "what" experts can do better for less. I hate not being able to edit posts. Or doing “what” experts can do better for less. I hate not being able to edit posts.

]]> By: Charlene http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060934 Charlene Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:59:14 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060934 Really. Phone lines on Canadian Forces bases belong to the local phone company. Why would they so egregiously and shamelessly waste money and manpower doing when experts can do better for less? Really.

Phone lines on Canadian Forces bases belong to the local phone company. Why would they so egregiously and shamelessly waste money and manpower doing when experts can do better for less?

]]> By: JMyint http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060926 JMyint Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:33:38 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060926 Each branch of the service was at one time responsible for all the maintainence at there bases. The US Air Force currently has 330,000 personel at 68 bases in the US and 17 overseas. So yeah, I would say they had a lot of telephone, power, and other communication lines to maintain. Each branch of the service was at one time responsible for all the maintainence at there bases. The US Air Force currently has 330,000 personel at 68 bases in the US and 17 overseas. So yeah, I would say they had a lot of telephone, power, and other communication lines to maintain.

]]> By: Charlene http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060920 Charlene Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:25:27 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060920 Does the air force have a lot of telephone lines to fix? Does the air force have a lot of telephone lines to fix?

]]> By: John M. Hanna http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/09/19/linemen-train-on-grove-of-junior-phone-poles/comment-page-1/#comment-1060910 John M. Hanna Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:58:59 +0000 http://blog.modernmechanix.com/?p=5540#comment-1060910 And...let the male enhancement jokes begin! And…let the male enhancement jokes begin!

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