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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Commuter&#8221; helicopter</title>
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		<title>By: MrG</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064492</link>
		<dc:creator>MrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hiller story does get a bit more complicated.  In the early 1970s the rights to the Hiller
helicopters were bought up, with sources variously claiming that Stan Hiller and an outfit
named Rogerson were involved in the buyout, with the operation then obtained by Stan&#039;s son
Jeff in 1994.  Apparently the classic Hiller 360 is still in production -- it&#039;s commonly used as
a cropduster.  Cheers -- MrG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hiller story does get a bit more complicated.  In the early 1970s the rights to the Hiller<br />
helicopters were bought up, with sources variously claiming that Stan Hiller and an outfit<br />
named Rogerson were involved in the buyout, with the operation then obtained by Stan&#8217;s son<br />
Jeff in 1994.  Apparently the classic Hiller 360 is still in production &#8212; it&#8217;s commonly used as<br />
a cropduster.  Cheers &#8212; MrG</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Hanna</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064484</link>
		<dc:creator>John M. Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God this didn&#039;t catch on. Its bad enough I have idiots revving their motorcycles all day on my street. A neighborhhod of copter jockeys would be unbearable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God this didn&#8217;t catch on. Its bad enough I have idiots revving their motorcycles all day on my street. A neighborhhod of copter jockeys would be unbearable.</p>
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		<title>By: MrG</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064483</link>
		<dc:creator>MrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiller died out a long time ago.  Back in the early Sixties the Army had a competition for a scout
helicopter -- Hiller, Bell, and Hughes all bid on it, and Hughes won with what would turn out
to be the Hughes 500 / OH-58 LOH or &quot;Loach&quot;.  Not a bad machine but Hughes used a wide 
range of corrupt practices (&quot;booze, broads, &amp; bribes&quot;) to make the deal, lowballed the price, 
won the bid, and then tried to jack it up.  Congress stepped in and there was hell to pay.

In the late 1960s  the whole competition was rebid.   Hiller had left his own company -- he
was a business genius, going from one company in trouble to another to get them back on their
feet -- and it became a Fairchild division.  The management he left behind was so angry at 
the Army that they refused to enter the second round of bidding, even though they had what 
would turn out to be  the best bid.  Bell got the contract with the Jetranger instead.
The Hiller division was shut down.  Fairchild went on to develop the A-10 tank buster in the
next decade, but it was their last shot -- they lost a big deal for an Air Force jet trainer in the
1980s and went bust.

Cheers -- MrG / http://www.vectorsite.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiller died out a long time ago.  Back in the early Sixties the Army had a competition for a scout<br />
helicopter &#8212; Hiller, Bell, and Hughes all bid on it, and Hughes won with what would turn out<br />
to be the Hughes 500 / OH-58 LOH or &#8220;Loach&#8221;.  Not a bad machine but Hughes used a wide<br />
range of corrupt practices (&#8221;booze, broads, &amp; bribes&#8221;) to make the deal, lowballed the price,<br />
won the bid, and then tried to jack it up.  Congress stepped in and there was hell to pay.</p>
<p>In the late 1960s  the whole competition was rebid.   Hiller had left his own company &#8212; he<br />
was a business genius, going from one company in trouble to another to get them back on their<br />
feet &#8212; and it became a Fairchild division.  The management he left behind was so angry at<br />
the Army that they refused to enter the second round of bidding, even though they had what<br />
would turn out to be  the best bid.  Bell got the contract with the Jetranger instead.<br />
The Hiller division was shut down.  Fairchild went on to develop the A-10 tank buster in the<br />
next decade, but it was their last shot &#8212; they lost a big deal for an Air Force jet trainer in the<br />
1980s and went bust.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; MrG / <a href="http://www.vectorsite.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.vectorsite.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: LightningRose</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064475</link>
		<dc:creator>LightningRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hiller Aviation Museum is located in San Carlos, California.

&quot; The Hiller Aviation Institute, a non-profit organization, brings together historical, educational and technological resources to create programs which increase public understanding of science and aviation and inspire new opportunities.

The Hiller Aviation Institute is dedicated to the dreams of flight – looking back into aviation’s history while exploring its future.&quot;

http://www.hiller.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hiller Aviation Museum is located in San Carlos, California.</p>
<p>&#8221; The Hiller Aviation Institute, a non-profit organization, brings together historical, educational and technological resources to create programs which increase public understanding of science and aviation and inspire new opportunities.</p>
<p>The Hiller Aviation Institute is dedicated to the dreams of flight – looking back into aviation’s history while exploring its future.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hiller.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hiller.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy B.</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064468</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was Fairchild-Hiller for a while</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was Fairchild-Hiller for a while</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064450</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I had a flying potato in my driveway ... sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had a flying potato in my driveway &#8230; sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Torgo</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/01/08/commuter-helicopter/comment-page-1/#comment-1064423</link>
		<dc:creator>Torgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quickly followed by &quot;air-rage.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quickly followed by &#8220;air-rage.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiller Aircraft is still in business, as far as I know. They were always &#039;out there&#039; on the innovation vector, with tip-jets and coax.

Imagine what this would have looked like with retractable gear.  NASA would have had to field a lot of calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiller Aircraft is still in business, as far as I know. They were always &#8216;out there&#8217; on the innovation vector, with tip-jets and coax.</p>
<p>Imagine what this would have looked like with retractable gear.  NASA would have had to field a lot of calls.</p>
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