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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/11/23/movies-that-leap-from-the-screen/comment-page-1/#comment-1072914</link>
		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am interested in the Russian system as applied towards 3DHDTV.
I think LG demoed a prototype at a CES two years ago.
Vertical lenecular lenses on the screen send the even numbered pixels to the left eye and
odd numbered pixels to the right.
No goggles required but precision seating is.

Is there a 3D production company I can invest in?
Soon the demand for 3D content will explode!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am interested in the Russian system as applied towards 3DHDTV.<br />
I think LG demoed a prototype at a CES two years ago.<br />
Vertical lenecular lenses on the screen send the even numbered pixels to the left eye and<br />
odd numbered pixels to the right.<br />
No goggles required but precision seating is.</p>
<p>Is there a 3D production company I can invest in?<br />
Soon the demand for 3D content will explode!</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Savard: I think that you&#039;re referring to the Pulfrich effect which can be dramatically seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/introducing-the-pulfrich-effect/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

Thanks for the info on the Russian system, I never heard of that before.

Do you remember what it was called?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Savard: I think that you&#8217;re referring to the Pulfrich effect which can be dramatically seen <a href="http://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/introducing-the-pulfrich-effect/" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the info on the Russian system, I never heard of that before.</p>
<p>Do you remember what it was called?</p>
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		<title>By: John Savard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Savard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do remember that recently, during the 1980s, someone else proposed a 3-D system that was based on how the eyes perceived motion. This could be slightly related to what is proposed here.

But while 3-D itself never caught on, because of not advancing the plot, theatres in North America stuck to using anaglyphic or polarized glasses. In Russia, one other system, with a striped screen in front of the silver screen, was also used. This, however, required that the position of every seat in the theatre be calculated with respect to that grid, so the theatre had to be built especially for showing 3-D movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do remember that recently, during the 1980s, someone else proposed a 3-D system that was based on how the eyes perceived motion. This could be slightly related to what is proposed here.</p>
<p>But while 3-D itself never caught on, because of not advancing the plot, theatres in North America stuck to using anaglyphic or polarized glasses. In Russia, one other system, with a striped screen in front of the silver screen, was also used. This, however, required that the position of every seat in the theatre be calculated with respect to that grid, so the theatre had to be built especially for showing 3-D movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto: Thanks, it should be fixed now. I am seriously amazed that I can crash browsers on command!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto: Thanks, it should be fixed now. I am seriously amazed that I can crash browsers on command!</p>
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		<title>By: Eamonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eamonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlm, from what I understand it would work a lot like  a wiggle stereogram. Two different cameras eye distance apart take alternating frames. Then they play them back left frame, right frame, left, right, and so on. Your eyes see two different perspectives, only slightly off. Your mind sorts that out and sees only the one, 3d image. The effect is similar to blinking one eye then the other in rapid succession. 

There was a cute animated clip about a girl and a cat done in this manner a while ago but for the life of me I can&#039;t find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlm, from what I understand it would work a lot like  a wiggle stereogram. Two different cameras eye distance apart take alternating frames. Then they play them back left frame, right frame, left, right, and so on. Your eyes see two different perspectives, only slightly off. Your mind sorts that out and sees only the one, 3d image. The effect is similar to blinking one eye then the other in rapid succession. </p>
<p>There was a cute animated clip about a girl and a cat done in this manner a while ago but for the life of me I can&#8217;t find it.</p>
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		<title>By: carlm</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look just below the screen, you will notice an orchestra playing.  I think the &quot;talkie&quot; was more of a draw than the 3D movie in 1929.  The article indicated that the viewer didn&#039;t need glasses to view the film.  I don&#039;t understand how one eye understands what image it should be viewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look just below the screen, you will notice an orchestra playing.  I think the &#8220;talkie&#8221; was more of a draw than the 3D movie in 1929.  The article indicated that the viewer didn&#8217;t need glasses to view the film.  I don&#8217;t understand how one eye understands what image it should be viewing.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Rutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system described in this article doesn&#039;t seem to actually have any way to make sure that each eye sees only the view it&#039;s meant to. There&#039;s just that gobbledegook about &quot;pulsating lenses&quot;, which suggests that this system was actually a sort of motion-picture wiggle stereoscopy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy#Wiggle_stereoscopy

I think they actually could have made a polariser-glasses system work with 1920s technology; shutter-glasses would probably have been out of the question, or some huge and hideous mechanical contraption.

It also wouldn&#039;t have been very hard to make a system that projected two images on the screen and required the audience to all go cross-eyed to lay the images on top of each other. That could have been done with a single projector, too, at the price of lower resolution. Such a solution would, of course, probably not be tolerable for the duration of a feature presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system described in this article doesn&#8217;t seem to actually have any way to make sure that each eye sees only the view it&#8217;s meant to. There&#8217;s just that gobbledegook about &#8220;pulsating lenses&#8221;, which suggests that this system was actually a sort of motion-picture wiggle stereoscopy:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy#Wiggle_stereoscopy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....tereoscopy</a></p>
<p>I think they actually could have made a polariser-glasses system work with 1920s technology; shutter-glasses would probably have been out of the question, or some huge and hideous mechanical contraption.</p>
<p>It also wouldn&#8217;t have been very hard to make a system that projected two images on the screen and required the audience to all go cross-eyed to lay the images on top of each other. That could have been done with a single projector, too, at the price of lower resolution. Such a solution would, of course, probably not be tolerable for the duration of a feature presentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Firebrand - I&#039;ll try later.

BTW, Charlie, if you&#039;re listening: MM here has been crashing IE for me all day. Firefox has no problems, however. I&#039;ll try again later when I&#039;m not behind the corporate fire curtain to see if it makes a difference. (It only happens when I click on an article or comment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Firebrand &#8211; I&#8217;ll try later.</p>
<p>BTW, Charlie, if you&#8217;re listening: MM here has been crashing IE for me all day. Firefox has no problems, however. I&#8217;ll try again later when I&#8217;m not behind the corporate fire curtain to see if it makes a difference. (It only happens when I click on an article or comment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto: Yeah, if you take the time to read all of the posts at the links I provided, you&#039;ll see that technology finally caught up with the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto: Yeah, if you take the time to read all of the posts at the links I provided, you&#8217;ll see that technology finally caught up with the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet I&#039;ve seen 5x 3d movies in the last year or so.  Coraline, Up!, Toy Story, Toy Story 2 (a double bill) and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet I&#8217;ve seen 5x 3d movies in the last year or so.  Coraline, Up!, Toy Story, Toy Story 2 (a double bill) and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.</p>
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		<title>By: Firebrand38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebrand38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eamonn: It became associated as a gimmick that didn&#039;t advance the plot.  Cinematography, story and character development were sacrificed in hopes that things being thrown at the viewer would keep them from watching television.

http://www.reelzchannel.com/article/816/a-tour-through-the-history-of-3-d-movies

I also like this explanation: 
&lt;em&gt;But even though the studios had thrown their support behind 3D movies, some flies began to land in the ointment. The first one (in the USA) was the rental deal that was forced onto the exhibitors by the distributors. Dual strip projection meant that, effectively, two prints of a 3D movie were supplied to the theatres - a left eye print and a right eye one. The distributors figured: two prints, twice the rental. The exhibitors soon discovered, though, that customers wouldn’t pay twice as much to see a 3D movie, especially because sometimes - and this led directly to the second big problem - you sometimes got sore eyes after half an hour watching a 3D picture! This was because some projectionists were more than a little casual when it came to 3D presentation. If one projector is slightly out of focus, or out of rack, the result is eye strain for the audience [see the accompanying article by Gary de Wan] as their eyes try in vain to correct the discrepancy. Occasionally, damaged frames would be removed and the ends of the film simply spliced together, instead of being replaced with the appropriate length of blank film, thus rendering the remainder of the film from that splice onwards, out of sync with the other. More eye strain! And while the exhibitors’ financial grievance was eventually resolved, some patrons eventually began to avoid a 3D presentation of a movie if they could see it flat somewhere else because they didn’t like having to wear the cardboard glasses. In fact, many theatres were booking single prints of 3D movies anyway (which were still marked ‘left’ or ‘right’) because they didn’t think 3D was worth all the effort and installation expense.&lt;/em&gt;

Don&#039;t neglect to read the whole entry at http://widescreenmovies.org/WSM11/3D.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eamonn: It became associated as a gimmick that didn&#8217;t advance the plot.  Cinematography, story and character development were sacrificed in hopes that things being thrown at the viewer would keep them from watching television.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reelzchannel.com/article/816/a-tour-through-the-history-of-3-d-movies" rel="nofollow">http://www.reelzchannel.com/ar.....3-d-movies</a></p>
<p>I also like this explanation:<br />
<em>But even though the studios had thrown their support behind 3D movies, some flies began to land in the ointment. The first one (in the USA) was the rental deal that was forced onto the exhibitors by the distributors. Dual strip projection meant that, effectively, two prints of a 3D movie were supplied to the theatres &#8211; a left eye print and a right eye one. The distributors figured: two prints, twice the rental. The exhibitors soon discovered, though, that customers wouldn’t pay twice as much to see a 3D movie, especially because sometimes &#8211; and this led directly to the second big problem &#8211; you sometimes got sore eyes after half an hour watching a 3D picture! This was because some projectionists were more than a little casual when it came to 3D presentation. If one projector is slightly out of focus, or out of rack, the result is eye strain for the audience [see the accompanying article by Gary de Wan] as their eyes try in vain to correct the discrepancy. Occasionally, damaged frames would be removed and the ends of the film simply spliced together, instead of being replaced with the appropriate length of blank film, thus rendering the remainder of the film from that splice onwards, out of sync with the other. More eye strain! And while the exhibitors’ financial grievance was eventually resolved, some patrons eventually began to avoid a 3D presentation of a movie if they could see it flat somewhere else because they didn’t like having to wear the cardboard glasses. In fact, many theatres were booking single prints of 3D movies anyway (which were still marked ‘left’ or ‘right’) because they didn’t think 3D was worth all the effort and installation expense.</em></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t neglect to read the whole entry at <a href="http://widescreenmovies.org/WSM11/3D.htm" rel="nofollow">http://widescreenmovies.org/WSM11/3D.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eamonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eamonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why this never caught on. I&#039;ve seen it in really short internet videos, and it definitely works. Was it too complicated or cause headaches or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why this never caught on. I&#8217;ve seen it in really short internet videos, and it definitely works. Was it too complicated or cause headaches or something?</p>
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