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	<title>Comments on: New Slant on Bicycles  (Jan, 1936)</title>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/12/17/new-slant-on-bicycles/comment-page-1/#comment-1074039</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is.....OUCH!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is&#8230;..OUCH!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dj_nme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj_nme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it worked half as well as Mr Mochet&#039;s recumbent design (1933), then it would have won a few races spectacularly and then been banned for being &quot;non regulation&quot; (ie: too much better than other bicycles).
As it stands, I doubt it went much further than a few posed photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it worked half as well as Mr Mochet&#8217;s recumbent design (1933), then it would have won a few races spectacularly and then been banned for being &#8220;non regulation&#8221; (ie: too much better than other bicycles).<br />
As it stands, I doubt it went much further than a few posed photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the saddle looks like.

I see that the design allows him to shorten the wheelbase by a foot or more, quicker handling, less stability.

Everyone wants to reinvent the [bicycle] wheel.  If you click my link, my friends and I actually did.  In 1979 I opened an unusual bike shop in a rented garage along with my best friend and former roommate, a fellow named Gary Fisher.  We called our little business MountainBikes and our only product was expensive handmade balloon tire bikes for cross country riding.  Bicycling hasn&#039;t been the same since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the saddle looks like.</p>
<p>I see that the design allows him to shorten the wheelbase by a foot or more, quicker handling, less stability.</p>
<p>Everyone wants to reinvent the [bicycle] wheel.  If you click my link, my friends and I actually did.  In 1979 I opened an unusual bike shop in a rented garage along with my best friend and former roommate, a fellow named Gary Fisher.  We called our little business MountainBikes and our only product was expensive handmade balloon tire bikes for cross country riding.  Bicycling hasn&#8217;t been the same since.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Which was the expected advantage of that ride position? 

Aerodynamics. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollie_Free</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Which was the expected advantage of that ride position? </p>
<p>Aerodynamics. See: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollie_Free" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollie_Free</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously there are many reasons that explain that this design did not succeed. Which was the expected advantage of that ride position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously there are many reasons that explain that this design did not succeed. Which was the expected advantage of that ride position?</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about that too-- that bicycle would turn him into a soprano.  I wonder when they finally came out with the recumbent arrangement.  Recumbent would not work with a short wheelbase bike like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about that too&#8211; that bicycle would turn him into a soprano.  I wonder when they finally came out with the recumbent arrangement.  Recumbent would not work with a short wheelbase bike like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomen Nescio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomen Nescio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking behind you shouldn&#039;t be that hard, just cock your elbow outwards and nod your head down and to the side a little. it&#039;s seeing what&#039;s coming up ahead that&#039;ll give you a headache.

also, trying to regain some sort of balance if you should start to fall over or need to stop in a hurry might be trickier than if you were seated more upright. how do you shift your center of gravity quickly and with good control when you&#039;re flat on your face?

...for that matter, is that guy&#039;s whole body weight resting on his &lt;i&gt;crotch&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking behind you shouldn&#8217;t be that hard, just cock your elbow outwards and nod your head down and to the side a little. it&#8217;s seeing what&#8217;s coming up ahead that&#8217;ll give you a headache.</p>
<p>also, trying to regain some sort of balance if you should start to fall over or need to stop in a hurry might be trickier than if you were seated more upright. how do you shift your center of gravity quickly and with good control when you&#8217;re flat on your face?</p>
<p>&#8230;for that matter, is that guy&#8217;s whole body weight resting on his <i>crotch</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: jayessell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayessell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe the cover illustration is from 1936.
It looks like it should be from 20 years earlier.
What&#039;s that quote about war planners trying to fight the previous war?

By the way....

H.G. Wells wrote &quot;The Land Ironclads&quot; in 1903.
In his &quot;War and the Future&quot; (1917) he patted himself on the back
for predicting (and perhaps influencing the creation of) military tanks.
But, for the next war, he predicted battleship sized tanks.
(I think I&#039;ve seen that illustration also.)
There&#039;s probably &#039;math&#039; or something that puts an upper limit
on the size of tanks, although the tanks in Iraq are pretty big.
(The same physical law that makes giant ants impossible?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the cover illustration is from 1936.<br />
It looks like it should be from 20 years earlier.<br />
What&#8217;s that quote about war planners trying to fight the previous war?</p>
<p>By the way&#8230;.</p>
<p>H.G. Wells wrote &#8220;The Land Ironclads&#8221; in 1903.<br />
In his &#8220;War and the Future&#8221; (1917) he patted himself on the back<br />
for predicting (and perhaps influencing the creation of) military tanks.<br />
But, for the next war, he predicted battleship sized tanks.<br />
(I think I&#8217;ve seen that illustration also.)<br />
There&#8217;s probably &#8216;math&#8217; or something that puts an upper limit<br />
on the size of tanks, although the tanks in Iraq are pretty big.<br />
(The same physical law that makes giant ants impossible?)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a cyclist, I would think one disadvantage of this is that you can&#039;t use your weight on the pedals. Another is that you would get a horribly stiff neck from trying to look forward in that position. Another is that you can&#039;t easily see behind you - c.f. the discussions on &quot;prone piloting&quot; a while ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a cyclist, I would think one disadvantage of this is that you can&#8217;t use your weight on the pedals. Another is that you would get a horribly stiff neck from trying to look forward in that position. Another is that you can&#8217;t easily see behind you &#8211; c.f. the discussions on &#8220;prone piloting&#8221; a while ago.</p>
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