France Builds World’s Greatest Defense System (Mar, 1931)
That sure worked out well…
France Builds World’s Greatest Defense System
In spite of the recent peace treaties and disarmament conferences, Europe is preparing for war. This article describes the French reaction to current peace talk.
NOT since the ancient Mongols erected the great Chinese wall more than two thousand years ago, has any nation conceived so gigantic a system of defensive fortifications as is now under construction on the eastern frontier of France and Belgium.
This system, when completed, will provide a chain of forts stretching from the English Channel to the Mediterranean Sea. Two hundred miles of this chain, reaching from the Mediterranean to Lorraine, are now ready; and that this southern half should be rushed to completion first, shows that the French Republic fears Italy at this time more than disarmed Germany.This defensive chain consists of armored concrete cupolas placed three-quarters of a mile apart, with a secondary chain of similar “pill-boxes” placed farther to the rear and half way between the first line. Any two of the front line forts, with its corresponding member in the rear, will form a triangle three-quarters of a mile on each side with its base toward the front. In wartime they are to be linked together with a system of trenches and underground passages connecting with each other and with the rear. The entrenched protection line connects to the rear with an underground railway for bringing up munitions and evacuating the wounded.
Each of these miniature forts will be equipped with heavy guns for long-distance firing, and will bristle with machine guns for use against attacking infantry.
The crew for each casemate numbers thirty men, and comfortable living quarters are provided forty feet underground. Under this forty feet of earth is a ten-foot layer of concrete, while the turrets themselves, which project but slightly above the surface of the ground, will be of heavily armored concrete.
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The defensive line to the South was called the Alpine Line while the defensive line between Germany and France to the North-East was called the Maginot line. In hindsight it belongs to the category of “It seemed like a good idea at the time” as it turned out to be a total waste of money and resources.
How do those guys in the turret not become immediately dead the first time that big gun fires off? Go visit a fort that was active during WWII and you’ll see that the big guns are invariably out in the open – specifically to keep the operators from turning into strawberry jam from the shock wave.
Mitch: I dunno, probably the same way that Navy gunners in a battleship turret didn’t become jelly whenever the gun fired http://upload.wikimedia…
The shockwave comes out of the muzzle which you’ll no doubt note is extending out of the dome?
Good thing you caught that after it was actually built. I guess they had to replace the entire dead crew every time a shot was fired.
I don’t know too many “forts” that were attacked in WW2 apart from Eben Emael. You would see field artillery out in the open because it was just too much trouble building a concrete dome overhead whenever they relocated the guns.
John: You don’t remember the moving forts of WWII? You know, the ones with the open air artillery?
Fred: You know that reminds me that tank turrets are a stupid idea too! You have a gun going off in an space smaller than a Maginot line turret! Oh all those jellified crews! Leave it to the Government to hush up all those poor lads being jellified while defending democracy.
Also, two of the guys have to sleep with their buddies’ feet in their face. Bummer.
There was Fort Eben-Emael and several lesser forts in Belgium that were attacked and over run by the Germans in 1940. Their design was a bit more conservative than the Maginot line, but the guns were mounted in both turrets and casements.
http://www.fronta.cz/zb…
The page is in Czech but has some good pictures of the gun installations.
JMyint: So that’s how the Germans defeated Eben Emael. They allowed the Belgians to fire their guns, reducing everyone inside to strawberry jam and the rest was easy. And I always thought that it was the shaped charges.
http://www.johnsmilitar… (in English)
TomB: They just have to find the right kind of guy….
Talk about your border fence…
The French invested in static defences and the Germans invested in mobile warfare, guess who won?
Hirudinea: What, WW2? Why, the French of course.
@Charlene: Men of that caliber don’t show up every day.
Would 2000 German speaking French secret agents have been cheaper?
Time Travelers are forbidden to assassinate Hitler, but that
wouldn’t apply to the locals.
About the photo with the path cut into the underbrush?? What happens if the invaders went around the path…oh yea, the Germans tried that didn’t they. I notice there’s not one AA-gun in the whole article.
Sorry I should have said who won the Battle of France, and as to the French winning WWII, well if you consider collaboration and rescue to be winning then, yes, they did win.
Hirudinea: They kicked the Germans out of Paris with the 2nd French Armored Division (along with the American 4th Infantry Division) and got their country back. Vichy government was exiled and the Republic re-established. They were one of the Allies that was on the winning side against the Axis. I’d say that qualifies as winning.
JMyint: I also wrote an article about french weapons of the Maginot line: http://www.fronta.cz/zb…
I hope Google translator will be sufficient to understand this article.